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    1 year ago

    Antifascism isn’t fascism, but Antifa, in a lot of public outings (where presumably only a minority of people go) behaves very fascist.

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      1 year ago

      “behaves very fascist”

      Yeah those evil fascist protestors doing violence, waving American flags, demanding strict social hierarchies, with ultra-right-wing views

      /s

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            1 year ago

            Reasons why I think Antifa is fascist:

            1. they paint people they don’t like as ‘Nazis’ - just like right wing fascists like to paint everyone they don’t like as a ‘jew’
            2. they endorse violence against these ‘Nazis’
            3. they self-radicalize by echo-chambering, removing themselves farther and farther from the “real world”

            Do you not agree with these statements?

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              Are they also ultra-nationalist, ultra-right-wing, and in favor of strict social hierarchies? There’s more to fascism than just being mean to people you don’t like

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                1 year ago

                According to Britannica:

                Fascism : a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government

                While what I described is not centrally controlled by a dictator (and anyone claiming that Antifa was centrally controlled is a nutcase, I agree), the way Antifa as a collective behaves does try to “control the lives of people, not allowing them to disagree with them” - at least in my opinion. You’re free to have your own.

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        1 year ago

        No. Antifa is the Antifaschistische Aktion. It’s an organization that exists, although rather loosely organized.

        I don’t know about your American weird ass bullshit, but that is the actual true Antifa.

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          There are many organizations under that label, they usually are not organized between each other at all and have very different philosophies of what and how they want to do.

          There is no AntiFa e.V.

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            There’s also no Nazi e. V. - yet for some reason Antifa groups like to label everyone not agreeing with them as a nazi.