• osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org
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    2 months ago

    To be fair, there was an honest gambit there with Our Pal Russia, the same one that was tried with China. It didn’t work but it seemed like a fair thing to try, especially considering the economic constraints of the alternative.

    • Pennomi@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Oh yeah, at the time Obama was right to try to repair relations with Russia. They’ve simply grown worse as they figured out how to poke at the world via information warfare.

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        2 months ago

        Putin wanted to join NATO. The US rejected Russia as an ally, while adding other former Soviet republics to NATO. Russia was slow to realize America wasn’t merely content with the fall of Soviet communism, but also wanted cheap access to its natural resources. Russia has adjusted accordingly.

        America would’ve won cold war 1 & 2 in one move by admitting Russia to NATO and pitting them against China, but it got greedy.

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          A good bit of shit in Chechnya already happened by that point, Russia showed itself as having not totally abandoned its old ways. Best case scenario Russia improves, worst case they do exactly what theyve done and fuck up NATO in the process. And given how Russia has been historically, well lets just say better to not take a stupid gamble.

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          2 months ago

          Russia in NATO is a stretch, but okay, maybe.

          Putin in NATO is absurd. I don’t know how you can even suggest that should have been entertained.