We all know the saying of if you are not paying then you are the product, which again became relevant with how Reddit is dealing with its business model and trying to get everyone into their dataharvesting for more ads ecosystem. It is really sad how many of the worlds brightest techminds are building technologies that in the end all leads to show more ads.
I have been online for over 25 years, so it is a hard expectation to break that everything should be free. Free email, free search, free news, free social media etc.
Given how much time many of us spend using various online services, paying a little seems reasonable. Yet I often tend to think way too long on even smaller digital expenses, like an app for €2, but I will happily pay €10 for a coffee and a croissant at a train station like it is nothing.
I have seen many saying they wouldn’t mind paying a bit for a good Reddit experience, and I think I could even be persuaded to pay for Facebook if it removed all the ads and let me control my feed again like we could in the beginning. Yet these companies don’t really seem interested in providing that option.
What services do you find worth paying for - even though free alternatives exists?
I have a neutral email provider, a todo app (Todoist), a journal app (DayOne), a podcast app (PocketCast) - as well as the usual plethora of streaming services. I have considered trying Kagi for a paid search engine, though that is really a hard pill to swallow when good search have always been there freely available. Though Googles quality have really gone down in recent years.
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I pay for ProtonMail
The biggest, obvious one to me is news. Say what you will about mainstream media but some great investigative journalism still happens, and these companies are in an awkward position where no one wants to pay and everyone uses adblockers.
When I’m not living paycheck to paycheck I want to support Standard Ebooks (they’re doing a great job of showing how to make ebooks that don’t suck, check out their style guide) and maybe Neocities.
The more I think about how Medium works, the more I think it makes sense? While they could have done the typical thing where the people hosting content there pay for their share of the servers, by doing it in reverse the individual monthly cost can be lower (casting a wider net) and the people writing for them can actually get paid a bit for doing so.
I’m thinking about throwing some money at Obsidian, too, since I practically live in that app.
…Oh and obviously Fedora considering I rely on it to use my computer at all.
^On an unrelated note, how am I the first person to leave a comment?^
Totally agree on the news and journalism part. I subscribe to three different publications, which gets expensive, but it is worth it. Many newssites have also started to hide their articles behind paywalls, which is understandable, but also make sharing and discussing news with others on social media harder. And since most people can’t afford to subscribe to several news outlets, they will be limited in their exposure to different viewpoints - unless that particular newspaper is really good at challenging its readers and not just giving them what they think they want.
no. I will steal everything
This is the first I’ve heard of kagi. It looks interesting and I’m sick of scrolling past a page of “sponsored links”.
How have you found it?
I recently purchased an expensive samsung tv. There is no way to disable advertisements or data tracking… They’re selling you an pricey piece of hardware and want to sell your data - double dipping at its finest.
(My solution has been not to agree to their tos, which means i can’t use any of the apps on it. I just plug in a roku and use the tv as a monitor. Also looking at adblock/pihole once i get a proper firewall back up)
Wouldn’t it be better to simply never give the tv a wifi password? Or am I missing something here?
Also, Roku is also quite bad about data collection and selling, IIRC. ☹️ But the only real choice seems to be which company you’ll let collect the data, not whether they can.
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You’re not wrong. I don’t give it access to my lan. The roku, we’ve had for so long, I’m accepting the data collection from - but it’s also not a 1500 dollar device…
I wouldn’t mind paying for most worthwhile services, actually I already pay for VPN, email, etc, but the fact is that the old adage “if it’s free, you’re the product” is no longer true. Even services you pay for collect and sell an impressive amount of data. I wouldn’t mind paying for social media, but then I would also expect a zero collection policy on any metrics that pertains to my account or interactions with it.
I absolutely agree. Hell, I would pay some companies to not show up to me anymore.
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I pay for Proton Unlimited (Email+vpn; ongoing), a couple of Android apps (once) and that’s it. The thing you said about spending 2$ on an app vs 10$ at the coffee stand is very relatable.
before the whole “everything is free on the internet” you had to run your own server, know someone or pay a huge bill for special network services.
it was VC money being thrown at people for 20+ years trying to make them think the place was just “supposed” to be free and funded entirely by spam. It does not work, this is not PBS this is communication, and each user has to make a certain amount of input to keep it operational.
What you are seeing is the internet returned to its intended designs and interactions. We aren’t supposed to be tied to providers, only protocols.
I am yet to write an essay where I’d argue how it ad-funded internet is responsible for so many problems in our society, including the increased polarization and radicalization, the destruction of civil debate and the complete dehumanization of society.
Business models that depend only on monetizing eyeballs do not care about the individuals. They care only about the masses, the tribes, the identity groups and demographics. On the other hand, businesses that makes a living out of receiving a monthly payment from their customers need to care enough about their customers to the point where they can not lose them to a competitor.
I believe so much so in this, this is exactly why I’ve started Communick. Like you, I’ve always wondered why people are okay with paying $10 for some extra power up on Mario Kart, but would balk at the idea of paying $10/year for a social media service that is based on open protocols and does not put in a walled garden.
I happily pay for discord nitro. I have a bunch of servers that I’m in and interact with daily. Discord has been an amazing tool for me and my friends, for fostering community growth, for facilitating community involvement.
People like to shit on discord, but it is one of the only services that hasn’t done some massive f u to it’s users.
The name change thing was stupid and a self own, but not that big of a deal really.
that hasn’t done some massive f u to its users… yet.
