• ALQ@lemmy.world
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    I always thought some men’s irrational fear of menstrual products to be weird. It’s really bizarre that this is such a big deal for the trumpies.

    It’s a tampon, not a snake. It’s not going to bite you.

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      It is weird but some - especially those in very fundamentalist religious sects - genuinely believe it makes a woman unclean and she should have to keep away from society and be shunned every month.

      Yes it’s fucking stupid, but the Bible has some really weird rules.

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        These people don’t follow the Bible. The Bible is so ass backwards that it contradicts itself. There’s only one mention in the Bible about abortion, and it’s a “how to”. The Bible mentions gays one time but mentions shellfish like 46 times. It’s disjointed af.

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      Some men just hate that women have bodily functions but in this case its because they believe that tampons have sexual undertones because it involves insertion. For a long time in England, only married women were allowed to buy them and I can only assume that there were similar rules in The US.

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        As prudish as America is, I’ve never heard that before. Not saying it’s not the case though.

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            https://www.ahpma.co.uk/menstruation_facts_and_figures/

            • Until as late as the 1950’s, every packet of tampons had to carry the warning ‘Not suitable for unmarried women’ for fear that virginity might be impaired, which was of course untrue. To this day however, in predominately Catholic countries, sales of pads are notably higher than tampons.

            Fucking Lemmy people making me do research.

            An additional source that I am unable to find is Jo Brand on an episode of QI talking about stores refusing to sell tampons to unmarried women.

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              Yeah I guess I don’t know much about the Uk or other countries, I’m just speaking for my experience in the US.

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                But you you did know enough to be smug about it, apparently. These crazy Lemmy people saying such silly things.

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                  I’m not saying it never happened, just that it isn’t a thing anymore, not in any mainstream sense. Obviously there are small communities or whatever. There always are, but they are not representative of any significant group of people and can’t be pointed to as an example of some kind. This is the kind of thing lemmy/reddit does all the time that gets really annoying. It’s low effort circle jerking, and people just eat it up because it makes them feel superior.

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            It is absolutely a thing among conservative circles. I’ve known young women whose own mothers scared them away from using tampons because they said it would break the hymen and then you could no longer prove you’re a virgin (or some claim that you truly aren’t a virgin anymore, as though you can lose your virginity to a tampon) so then you’ll be considered unclean and no decent man will want you anymore.

            It’s gobsmackingly stupid but it is very very real.

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              It’s definitely “a thing” in the US, but the comment I replied to said only married women were “allowed” to buy them. I took that to mean allowed by law.

              Maybe that was too much of an assumption.

              Regardless, we’re talking about power structures denying bodily autonomy to women which, I think we can agree, is fucking disgusting.

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                It was not legally enforced but it was socially enforced trough stores refusing to sell them to you and mothers calling you a whore if they find them in your room.

                https://feddit.nu/comment/9831035

                This source is paired with multiple posts on r/XYchromosomes where their mothers associates tampons with being sexually active and an anecdote from Jo Brand on QI where she casually talks about having to use disgusting rags because the store would not sell her tampons.

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            I’m in my late 30s. My public school warned against tampons and told us we should ask our mothers before we use them because it could damage our hymens. Wait until you’re older they said. It was highschool.

            They were vague about it but it was a school health class. Rural America.

            So yes it was a thing for me. Hopefully schools have updated.

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              Wasn’t my experience, but I will take your word for it. I’d heard of it of course, but always in a vague, third-hand kind of way, or like it used to be a thing when they first came out. Caveat: I’m a guy. But that said I’m surrounded by very conservative and religious people and my wife is from an even more conservative part of the country, and the tampon thing was never an issue. She says she never even heard about that, and the only thing related to tampons she remembers was about risk of toxic shock if you leave them in too long.

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      As long as we’re talking about hetereosexual “weirdness”, can we discuss the desire to gag and be disgusted on seeing another man naked? It’s not fucking gross. It’s not fucking anything. Seeing another man’s member is like seeing their arm: if they’re particularly jacked, you’re a little impressed, maybe envious, and otherwise “oh look, a body part”. This whole fabricated need to act disgusted out of what I can only assume is fear that your lack of reaction could be misunderstood as interest is fucking weird.

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        How I feel about seeing another person naked has less to do with their gender and more to do with their personal maintenance. Take Arnold at the beginning of T2 for example. Guy was well-groomed and built. There was nothing ick about that.

        On the other hand, take a person who doesn’t take care of themselves, and have them be naked where being naked isn’t appropriate, and your attention is drawn to the ways in which they don’t take care of themselves.

        My neighbor, a woman, once bent over in a dress with no underwear on, to get something out of a car. I didn’t see, but my wife did, and she got the ick. Whether you think she got the ick due to the inappropriateness of the scenario, or the fact that my neighbor does not take care of herself, it’s clearly not just a guy thing.

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          Agreed, but that is far removed from the “penis’ are gross and make me feel sick” attitude many “straight” men take.

          My point is more that seeing someone’s gross, regularly unwashed genetalia is on par with seeing the toothless, decaying smile of someone who hadn’t brushed their teeth in years. It’s dusgusting, but it’s not about sexual preference.

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    They’re really gonna take the bait, huh?

    Not only is “No u” a bad retort in any situation, but following up with plans about legal placement of tampons and mandatory genital inspections is not gonna convince anyone you’re the reasonable one.

    Maybe by 2028, they’ll realize this is a doomed strategy and keep their hate to themselves. They’ll still be bigots, but the least they could do is be bigots in private.

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      Yeah but calling conservatives Nazis or fascists doesn’t hurt them because that’s what they are and they’re proud of it.

      Calling them weird really gets under their skin somehow.

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        Calling them weird really gets under their skin somehow.

        It’s because it makes them seem pathetic and not scary. They get off from being seen as dangerous, but really can’t handle being made fun of as it reveals them for what they truly are.

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    TEXT PRIDE TO 70785

    Why are ads and campaigns like this? Is there something I’d get that I couldn’t get from a website, beside “my phone number potentially leaked and used for robocalls”?

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        I thought Pride was mainly by and for people of the generation that would rather disable the “call” function of their phones entirely, and “give us your phone number and we’ll tell you who we are” is very much the opposite of how they want organizations to interact with them.

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    Standing up for the rights of all people should be a winning issue for Democrats. Trans people should not be an exception to that.

    I think in the past Democrats were to reluctant to fight on social issues, such as abortion. And I think the inability to push back on Republicans on these social issues cost Democrats elections. Democrats are finally fighting for a women’s right to an abortion in a bold way and stating loudly that abortion is women’s health care.

    I’m weird. Being weird is good. Calling fascists weird is such an effective strategy because it shatters their fragile egos. They are unable to see themselves as anything other than their fictional concept of ‘normal’. So the attack will not work in reverse, as it’s not going to bother anyone besides the fascists. As long Democrats continue to fight for everyone’s rights they will dominate Republicans on social issues in polling and elections. edit: typo

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      “I’m not like them!” Yeah ya are, you’re weird af. Weirder even. I may be into some weird stuff, but I don’t try to dictate what a child does with their parts. That’s REALLY fuckin weird.

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    If I ever hear any conservative viewpoints IRL. I always just say “oh man that’s so funny is that some kind of internet thing?” But I might switch it up to “huh, weird… Well anyway…” to stay in touch with the younger generations

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    “He’s very heavy into transgender,” Donald Trump said on Fox and Friends last week. “Anything transgender he thinks is great.”

    I think trans people are great too.

    “He signed a bill – he wants tampons in boys’ bathrooms,” Trump said on Wednesday in Raleigh. “I don’t think so.” One day later, in New Jersey, Trump returned to the theme: “He wants tampons in boys’ bathrooms. It’s terrible.”

    Have you considered that maybe shoving a tampon up your ass would mean you didn’t need to wear an adult-diaper?