The use of a platform is how they get money. The usage contributes to stats, clicks, throughput they then show those numbers to advertisers - to get money. So the content doesn’t matter. The use does.
You post to Twitter, you help Musk. Simple as that unfortunately. That’s part of why Capitalism is insidious, you’re constantly aiding a ruling class who do not share your class interests. The least we can do is boycott the worst of them.
But the post is on lemmy, the OP likely isn’t the twitter OP, the one who needs to receive the message is not here to see it. Boycott away, but if the goal is to stop twitter posts you have to tell twitter users, lemmy users are more likely already not using twitter.
That wasn’t the point of the discussion we just had. That’s a new argument you’ve just raised. Its existence on Lemmy wasn’t the argument being replied to.
But ideally, no one would be on or even visiting twitter (not even to bring content to Lemmy), so what I’ve said still stands. However I know that’s an unlikely and extremist position to adopt IRL… But it also wasn’t what I said, or anything I’ve argued thus far.
I really just came here to say I didn’t understand why the first comment was getting downvotes. The rest has been an organic and abstract discussion on a tangent.
Ideally no one should eat at Chick Fillet, no one should use PayPal due to Peter Thiel’s involvement, or stay at a Trump hotel… And explaining why these companies are bad, shouldn’t get someone downvotes. That’s my position, that’s the argument I was making.
Ideally, government would have stronger and more defensive capabilities to not be usurped by the Capitalists using these companies as political vehicles and funding sources/campaign pawns in their toxic politics - was my second comment.
However I’m not going to argue that this post or the content its self is toxic still when it’s on Lemmy - because that was never my position.
My position was that the thread starter shouldn’t be downvoted for saying Twitter is a Nazi platform. That this post has made its way to Lemmy is just a product of the messy realities of how social media is transported from website to website.
That doesn’t mean some websites that are noticeable in that process are beyond criticism or that their owners shouldn’t be called out on their politics.
Which was being done to Musk/twitter in this case.
The use of a platform is how they get money. The usage contributes to stats, clicks, throughput they then show those numbers to advertisers - to get money. So the content doesn’t matter. The use does.
You post to Twitter, you help Musk. Simple as that unfortunately. That’s part of why Capitalism is insidious, you’re constantly aiding a ruling class who do not share your class interests. The least we can do is boycott the worst of them.
This isn’t a twitter post, it’s a lemmy post of a picture of a twitter post. This post doesn’t help musk monetarily at all unless he owns mander.xyz and has monetized it somehow. The post is also likely a repost, if you wish to affect musk’s bottom line, you don’t need to “inform” the people on lemmy that the people who post on twitter should not be posting on twitter, as they are posting on lemmy, thus not at least currently engaging in the behavior you find objectionable. Go tell twitter people if you must evangelize, you can probably also find them on Reddit, Facebook, and Insta if you don’t want to go to Twitter to tell them there. However, we’re on lemmy. The people here use Masto, Pleroma, Misskey, or Bluesky, largely not twitter, the shit that got most of you off reddit to here also got you off twitter and onto Masto, before the reddit exodus if memory serves me. Trying to “educate” the folks here about the fact that “twitter is a nazi” or whatever is essentially screaming into the void, or rather circlejerking, and IMO the circlejerk isn’t relevant to a post about octopi simply because it’s a screenshot of twitter.
Imagine being so butthurt that you think I made the original comment (you’ve addressed me as if I did), I didn’t, I said it didn’t deserve the downvotes. But I get it you’re a closet musk fan boy or something, and want to downvote people complaining about him.
…and then imagine having such a child minded ego that you think you know everyone across multiple platforms and can speak for them.
What a joke. Get your shit together and move on with life. No one’s forced you to read or discuss this. Take some responsibility for your participation/consumption.
I address you as if you’re arguing against me, because you are. Idgaf if you made the original comment or not, you chose to reply to me and I replied to your reply. Feel free to not.
Okay, but only because you’re so unable to control whether you respond to posts and comments, that you literally might need someone to show you it’s possible to just stop interacting with something when/if it bothers you…
…like it’s just so embarrassing that you’ve blamed the internet for “making your respond”… You don’t like something or don’t want to fucking reply to it you can just fucking stop.
The use of a platform is how they get money. The usage contributes to stats, clicks, throughput they then show those numbers to advertisers - to get money. So the content doesn’t matter. The use does.
You post to Twitter, you help Musk. Simple as that unfortunately. That’s part of why Capitalism is insidious, you’re constantly aiding a ruling class who do not share your class interests. The least we can do is boycott the worst of them.
But the post is on lemmy, the OP likely isn’t the twitter OP, the one who needs to receive the message is not here to see it. Boycott away, but if the goal is to stop twitter posts you have to tell twitter users, lemmy users are more likely already not using twitter.
That wasn’t the point of the discussion we just had. That’s a new argument you’ve just raised. Its existence on Lemmy wasn’t the argument being replied to.
But ideally, no one would be on or even visiting twitter (not even to bring content to Lemmy), so what I’ve said still stands. However I know that’s an unlikely and extremist position to adopt IRL… But it also wasn’t what I said, or anything I’ve argued thus far.
I really just came here to say I didn’t understand why the first comment was getting downvotes. The rest has been an organic and abstract discussion on a tangent.
Ideally no one should eat at Chick Fillet, no one should use PayPal due to Peter Thiel’s involvement, or stay at a Trump hotel… And explaining why these companies are bad, shouldn’t get someone downvotes. That’s my position, that’s the argument I was making.
Ideally, government would have stronger and more defensive capabilities to not be usurped by the Capitalists using these companies as political vehicles and funding sources/campaign pawns in their toxic politics - was my second comment.
However I’m not going to argue that this post or the content its self is toxic still when it’s on Lemmy - because that was never my position.
My position was that the thread starter shouldn’t be downvoted for saying Twitter is a Nazi platform. That this post has made its way to Lemmy is just a product of the messy realities of how social media is transported from website to website.
That doesn’t mean some websites that are noticeable in that process are beyond criticism or that their owners shouldn’t be called out on their politics.
Which was being done to Musk/twitter in this case.
Yes it was, it was a direct reply to
This isn’t a twitter post, it’s a lemmy post of a picture of a twitter post. This post doesn’t help musk monetarily at all unless he owns mander.xyz and has monetized it somehow. The post is also likely a repost, if you wish to affect musk’s bottom line, you don’t need to “inform” the people on lemmy that the people who post on twitter should not be posting on twitter, as they are posting on lemmy, thus not at least currently engaging in the behavior you find objectionable. Go tell twitter people if you must evangelize, you can probably also find them on Reddit, Facebook, and Insta if you don’t want to go to Twitter to tell them there. However, we’re on lemmy. The people here use Masto, Pleroma, Misskey, or Bluesky, largely not twitter, the shit that got most of you off reddit to here also got you off twitter and onto Masto, before the reddit exodus if memory serves me. Trying to “educate” the folks here about the fact that “twitter is a nazi” or whatever is essentially screaming into the void, or rather circlejerking, and IMO the circlejerk isn’t relevant to a post about octopi simply because it’s a screenshot of twitter.
Imagine being so butthurt that you think I made the original comment (you’ve addressed me as if I did), I didn’t, I said it didn’t deserve the downvotes. But I get it you’re a closet musk fan boy or something, and want to downvote people complaining about him.
…and then imagine having such a child minded ego that you think you know everyone across multiple platforms and can speak for them.
What a joke. Get your shit together and move on with life. No one’s forced you to read or discuss this. Take some responsibility for your participation/consumption.
I address you as if you’re arguing against me, because you are. Idgaf if you made the original comment or not, you chose to reply to me and I replied to your reply. Feel free to not.
That is truely pathetic.
No u
Okay, but only because you’re so unable to control whether you respond to posts and comments, that you literally might need someone to show you it’s possible to just stop interacting with something when/if it bothers you…
…like it’s just so embarrassing that you’ve blamed the internet for “making your respond”… You don’t like something or don’t want to fucking reply to it you can just fucking stop.
It’s really not that difficult.
That is truely pathetic.
No u