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        4 months ago

        Voting isn’t the only way to have a democracy. Try to build an opposition outside parliament.

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          Oh sure that is great plan.

          One man’s dissentor is another man’s dissident.

          You know what happens to dissidents?

          First, a list is created. Names are checked off, collated, cross referenced. Names become numbers.
          Numbers are collected or concentrated together. After the concentration, solutions are devised, mulled over. And then there is solution that is final.

          Fucking vote. Vote like your life depends on it. Because it fucking does.

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                4 months ago

                If your system is so far gone that an non-parliamentary opposition will be put into camps, then why are you not fighting to abolish it?

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                  4 months ago

                  You can’t change the system without working from the bottom. Grassroots community action and mutual aid. Change hearts and you can change minds. Thinking that you can change the system by enabling the opposition is literally accelerationism and you’re either not arguing in good faith or are a Russian bot and no longer worth my time.

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                    Grassroots community action and mutual aid.

                    That’s what I mean with opposition outside the parliament.

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      Yeah here we go. Wahh the liberals love genocide and wont let us have third parties. Whatever.

      We absolutely 100% without any doubt CAN vote ourselves out of this - that is exactly how it works. It doesn’t work in 5 minutes, it’s not a videogame, but c’mon. Help paddle already.

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        4 months ago

        What’s your plan B? What will you do, if Trump wins, or Biden wins and they’ll have a successful insurrection? How will you avoid the next Trump successor?

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          What we’re supposed to do: conduct ourselves as best we can, organize and choose a candidate, and vote to elect them.

          If trump wins and they strangle democracy, of course, that’s a different and very horrible story.

          If Biden wins they will not have a successful insurrection. Any thoughts that they would are just gravy seal yammerings.

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            I think you’re dangerously naive for two options and defeatist for the other one.