• مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    I would vote for a tree stump, I agree. Might even write it down if the Democrats do what they did in PA in 2020 and have no 3rd party candidate on the ballot.

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          4 months ago

          Ugh… okay bud. We’re done here. I’m not debating this as it’s been beaten to the ground.

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              4 months ago

              When you show a willingness to even try to understand how congress works, we can come back to this, but until then- directly blaming Biden for what is happening in Gaza shows you have no idea how any of it works.

              Congress LOVES this shit. And if you think that’s not going to happen if Biden is gone- you have no clue how American politics work.

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          4 months ago

          If you think Biden is responsible for the crisis in Gaza, do you think giving the Presidency to the guy who has said, on multiple occasions (including in the debate last night) that “Israel should just finish the job” will make things better?

          I guess you can’t have a humanitarian crisis after the genocide is complete…

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            4 months ago

            Both options are the same. Biden did everything Trump would have done. Biden could have ended it months ago. You thought we would just forget all the ceasefire resolutions the US vetoed? Or how about stopping funding the UNRWA?

            Nothing changes for Palestine Biden or Trump, just the rhetoric. Did Biden reverse Trump’s decision to move the embassy to Jerusalem? Half the Democrats cheered Trump on when he did it!

            tl:dr; both are Zionists and disgust me, both will do exactly what is being done now to Palestinians, no difference.

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              4 months ago

              You can declare them identical on this issue, but even considering how complex politics is, this is the system we have to work with. First Past the Post voting can only support two political parties, full stop. Voting for a third party splits the vote for one party and secures a victory for the other.

              It’s fucked. But there are real, long term lasting implications to this election beyond the tragedy in Israel. Republicans are eyeing repealing things like no fault divorce, marriage equality, and voting rights.

              Authoritarianism is on the rise globally, and holding Biden accountable for Gaza will put the guy who said his nuclear button is bigger in office. The guy who already tried to illegally remain in office, has not conceded his election loss, and maintains to this day that he is the duly elected President. Who stole classified documents and kept them, refused to return them when asked, and only after being caught red handed with them did he say he declassified them with his mind.

              Hold Biden accountable for his actions and inactions in Gaza. But don’t kid yourself that because they’re both bad in Israel that they’re otherwise identical.