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I wanna shitpost more but why can’t I upload pictures? Is the server at it’s limit or something?
Lemmy doesn’t like jpegs for some ungodly reason
Do you think Lemmy knows what a “JPEG” is? It just wants a picture of a god dang hotdog.
What about png? Or, ugh, webp?
I have uploaded PNG‘s before, and I’ve seen webps. So those two should be fine.
“Why are you scrolling gonewild again?” “freedom depends on it” “oh. Carry on, I guess”
I’m here every day!
Lemmy perfectly represents the adage “building the plane as you fly it” and it’s been so much fun seeing it take shape.
It’s great. In weeks people has packed their bags and badabing badaboom new community. The party continues as reddit never happened (besides the gloating ofc)
This is not a good thing. Part of the problem is third-party apps like Sync and other Fediverse advocates that direct Reddit users to sign up on only one instance, lemmy.world. This is understandable to keep things simple for the Redditors but it hurts lemmy.world (cost and performance-wise) and the Fediverse as a whole (centralization) to have a lot of accounts on one instance. I hope lemmy.world can make an announcement or guide to encourage users to spread out to more instances.
I think another reason too is that .world is run by Ruud who is a trusted actor in the space (he already runs Mastodon.world, a large mastodon instance), and so many (including me) probably felt it would be a safe harbor and not likely to get shut down or run poorly.
Maybe ony Lemmy.world’s registration page thay can list other instances that they trust and endorse.
Not a bad idea. Might need assistance vetting servers and admins right now though as Ruud is probably busy taking a fire extinguisher to the server room every other minute.
This is a brilliant idea. Drive all the traffic to lemmy.world as it seems like the “main hub”, then when registering drive users to a few other instances as well
Maybe we should set up a separate site that monitors different instances and tries to suggest instances in the federation group that you want and then everyone gets directed there.
I stumbled into lemmy disoriented and just went with lemmy.ca because I always want to support ‘local’ domains. I’m surprised people go for for something like ‘.world’ tbh. Although, I think your logic makes sense I also know how little people read and its safer to say people just signed up for the instance that was the path of least resistance (low application threshold, links guiding them in, etc)
I scrolled through a few that were recommended and world seemed like it was just generally the best fit for me. Especially since I didn’t want any chance of running into explicitly queerphobic communities while having plenty of variety in topics
I made an account on both world and .CA while I was figuring things out.
I mostly use lemmy.ca now though.
I did exactly the same!
I am waiting on my lemm.ee confirmation. Might daily drive it if it gets heavy here.
It’s just that I really don’t care about what happens in my area within this context, I can just go outside to know what’s going on. And if I want to talk to local people I don’t do it on here either, so I prefer more international communities than just my town except it’s online
For anyone that’s using Lemmy.world and wants to lessen their burden on the admins, look for a Lemmy instance closer to you (in the physical world) using this site:
https://fediverse.observer/map
Sign up on that instance, sign in on your Lemmy app, sort based on All, and you should be able to see the same content as if you were on Lemmy.world!
Me just now - Oh that’s a good idea! (Looks up the instances near me and sees the names) Oh, that’s right. I live in conservative hell. :(
I’ll go a little further and find a less crazy instance…
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Looks at location-based fediverse list.
Looks outside window.
Yeah, that tracks.
I only have Mastodon instances near me. Can Mastodon instances browse Lemmy instances?
I believe Mastodon is a different software compared to Lemmy. Lemmy is an aggregation software of the entire Fediverse, while Mastodon is more like Twitter. My limited knowledge of Mastodon makes me think that it wouldn’t be possible to see Lemmy instances, but if you sent your comment using Mastodon then there might be a chance. Hopefully someone else in the comments will sound off.
You can see posts and users on Lemmy instances from Mastodon. However there are some limitations.
It would be helpful if they would allow you to filter by which instances allow sign ups. Unless I’m just not seeing it.
There’s a ‘Signups’ column in the list view.
Some degree of centralization is inevitable. I think it may be 2-4 main instances that people will predominately use.
I think the best approach might be general subject-specific instances? Like, video.games with a main games community, meme community, then smaller communities for various games - or sports.social, with communities for each sport.
I feel like we’re going to end up with a particular community on a particular instance ending up as the “default” community for that subject, but it’d probably be better (in an ideal world) to have those on separate instances to maintain some degree of decentralization
If a community goes to shit due to power tripping mods you can just switch instances too.
I know that it’s inevitable, but the signup flow should try to weaken that effect instead of contribute to it. An example of how not to do it is Mastodon’s old homepage which led to only one instance, mastodon.social, to “make onboarding easier”.
Hi, I’m new here. How can I move to another instance? Is there a way to migrate, or do I just have to register another account somewhere else? Thanks :)
I’m new, but slightly less so, and haven’t yet found a way to migrate my account to a new instance. But it’s also fairly trivial to just create a new account on another instance, especially when you don’t yet have a ton of subscriptions or much of a reply history to lose. Lemmy doesn’t have a running karma like reddit did, so it’s not like you’re even losing fake internet points in the process.
I don’t think you can migrate, since if that was possible your “karma” would also be able to move with you. People have been asking for that recently, but others have been saying that the Lemmy software doesn’t support that.
I think the best thing you can do is make a new account on a new instance and look back at the rest of the fediverse from that instance.
I think there was word that they were going to add that functionality at some point.
I tried lemmy.world, it seemed to slow. So I signed up to lemmy.nz… much quicker and more relevant to me.
Kia ora, Greetings from another lemmy.nz user!
And another! It’s nice having our own little corner of the world
Similar-ish for me. Although not speed, just saw lemmy.ca and couldn’t not support the ‘local’ domain. Understanding the fediverse enough to know I can still access it all (for the msot part) helped.
I think we’re trusting them to crunch the numbers and simply shut off registration if it gets out of control. At least, I’d hope so.
That wouldn’t be good either if third parties are still funnelling new users to lemmy.world. They’ll see a “sign ups closed” message, assume there is only one forum and it’s closed, then go back to Reddit.
Actually it’s even worse than that. I tried yesterday to register on https://lemmy.ml but it let me go through the registration process up to the submit button before returning an error message “Registration Closed”.
- It’s very annoying to have closed registration in the first place.
- When registration is closed the registration form should definitely not be present and let me fill the whole form.
- The error message should not just say “Registration Closed”, there should be some indication of where else I should go to register.
This is good feedback! If you haven’t already, you might post it to !lemmy_support@lemmy.ml. They may have already gotten this feedback, so you might do a quick skim of other posts before doing so, but honestly it’d be good to post just with this point specifically, since others may have only tossed it in amidst more general feedback.
A necessary evil but one that can be overcome. I would hope there’d be a way to leave a message about trying one of many other instances or at least a link to a Fediverse FAQ.
I gotta give it to this instance tho. Right now it has the fastest loading time ive ever experienced on the internet in a long time. Dont browse too fast tho, or you might get rate limited.
How is it possible to decentralise sign ups and see/searchable content and tabs? I used to be tech savvy but these days I struggle a bit. Turning into a dinosaur.
I have a “when I stop being bad at web development” project idea for this, hopefully someone who has a development background can pick it up.
The idea is an open-source onboarding portal that takes all Lemmy instances from awesome-lemmy-instances and Kbin instances from FediDB and lets their admins tag their instances with what the instance is focused on, maybe through a dedicated community or something. This list of instances and tags is public so instances can’t cheat the system with fake tags or get secretly blacklisted just because the project maintainer disagrees with them.
Users get directed to the portal and fill out a quiz with questions like “what are your hobbies”, “do you prefer strict or lax moderation”, and get matched to a list of the closest servers and recommended communities. There will also be a simple load balancing algorithm to make large instances less likely to be recommended. Of course, because it’s open source, the algorithm and list of instances can be changed if someone wants to host their own portal.
Basically, something like Spread Mastodon that covers the entire known network and not just a few of the largest instances that are approved by mastodon.social.
I like the idea and it sounds like a fantastic tool for people who would have been interested in the Fediverse anyway. I just fear taking a quiz is too cumbersome to be an optimal onboarding method for Lemmy as a Reddit replacement. The reason .world exploded in popularity was the simplicity (just go here and sign up and you’re posting within minutes and your Local is the biggest instance so you’re going to find content even if you’ve not discovered the All button).
Doesn’t every major social media website have an onboarding quiz these days? Whenever I created an alt on Reddit or Twitter, there would be this prompt asking me what I’m interested in, then it would recommend subreddits/accounts/hashtags to follow. I know Facebook and Instagram prompt for your contacts and interests to generate recommendations too. If the average social media user can manage this, so can future Threadiverse users.
Find instances on https://join-lemmy.org
Find subs (communities) on https://browse.feddit.de
These are great suggestions, but for finding communities, I would recommend https://lemmyverse.net/communities instead.
The Interface is nicer, you can directly get the !community@instance.tld string for searching it locally, and it doesn’t use a large blocklist like feddit.de sadly does.
Why not have a central hub though? I’d much prefer communities with higher populations
At least, users of lemmy.world (and from different servers when we are at it) should be educated, so they feel relatively confident to switch and understand why this is important.
Love the decentralized model. I’m so over corporate run sites looking to make a profit
Honestly, I also try to be more active as a user in Lemmy, and it feels way more rewarding because it feels like a more tight-knitly community here. Like it a lot!
I mean, if Reddit blocks 3rd party apps, I ain’t staying. I’ll just come here which appears to basically be a better version of Reddit.
This is pretty awesome. I’ve tried mastodon when Twitter shit the bed a few months back and it never really launched the way I’d hoped.
Lemmy seems pretty lively. At first I was a bit disillusioned with the fact that it’s not as active as reddit, but I feel the caliber of user that’s come over is better than who we’ve all been dealing with the past 3-5 years over there. I’m happy to be here and there’s palpable excitement
It’s nice seeing how much Lemmy is growing. I knew there would be an influx of new users from the 30th, but it’s honestly nice seeing more comments overall and posts getting upvoted.
Yeah, I was expecting a small bump of new people when the 3PAs shut down, but the absolute deluge we’ve been getting is a pleasant surprise. RIF sending its users here has a lot to do with it, I think.
That’s why I’m here. Just opened the app for the first time since the beginning of the month and was sent here. It’s a bit strange, but I’m sure I’ll figure it out.
Welcome! Hopefully you enjoy the discussion enough to put up with the growing pains of a new platform, but if not I won’t hold it against you!
I didn’t know RIF sent peeps here, but funnily enough I was a RIF user and now I’m here.
3PA?
Third party apps for Reddit. Apollo, RIF, Sync, Baconreader, etc.
Thanks!
The Elders! I hope they each create federations
3rd party apps
A rare quintuple post!
Thanks!
3rd party apps
Third party app.
Thanks!
Sync is also sending users here
Will the folks at RIF make an app?
Not as far as I’m aware.
You all might not be aware, but I think Rudd started this server only at the beginning of June for funsies, probably only expecting a couple of hundred users.
Then, of course, came Reddit API-calypse. Now, here we are barely 4 weeks later, almost 80k users on the instance. From nothing, to a respectable chuck of the fediverse, just that fast. Pretty amazing.
True, I opened my account June 1st on Beehaw, lemmy.world didn’t exist yet. But I had to open an account on LW when BH defederated them…
I’m happy to see .world growing for this reason. There has to be a neutral ground for everyone. The gatekeeping of communities like Beehaw are fine for them, but in order for the lemmy to grow, it has to be shapeable by the community. Moderation screening, content rigidity, and walled gardens are antithetical to the type of social network that people are looking for as a replacement to Reddit. The community has to be allowed to make the place its own.
Edit: For the record, I’m perfectly aware they plan to refederate once they get their “moderation” tools. I just question what tools they deem sufficient to permit refederation. Moderation tools on Lemmy will be extremely powerful thanks to votes being public, and I don’t trust admins of some of these instances to be responsible or fair with them, or to only use them on the most toxic elements. Petty, groundless shadowbanning and admin “curation” is going to plague Lemmy going forward, mark my words. That’s why we need some neutral ground.
I made an account on sh.itjust.works because world was having some issues registering new users. Because of this small issue I ended up taking a deep dive into learning about the Fediverse. It’s such a cool concept and really easy to use once you familiarize yourself with it.
It’s also awesome that instances can federate with one another, so communities can continue to grow! I was apprehensive of making the switch initially due to the presumption that it would require a steep learning curve, but I learned how to access, browse, and interact on lemmy in 15 minutes or less lol.
I keep mentioning it, but the fediverse reminds me of my early days of browsing reddit back in the mid-late 2000s. Lemmy feels like home and I can’t wait to see it grow :)
Okay I was a chronic lurker on Reddit but seeing you here gives me hope for the Soccer community on this site, which has thus far been a huge gaping hole. I honestly haven’t used anything other than r/Soccer to keep up with football news in many years so I hope Lemmy can shoulder that burden sooner rather than later. It’s probably the one part of Reddit that I’m really struggling to replace and/or live without.
Hey o/
Yea truth be told I still visit r/soccer and r/reddevils to catch up on football related news every morning/evening. The communities on Lemmy are still growing and while the more popular communities are very active, niche communities like sports will take some time.
Check out the football community on Lemmy, it’s starting to get active. I’ve recently started posting too.
I’m not sure how to link directly to a community, so here’s a link to one of my posts. You can click on the community and subscribe
Oh hi, that’s a name I never thought I’d see again, good to see you’re here
Hey cool, you run an electronic music community. I just subbed!
And it’s real good to see you here, if this is the original PK.
Yep, it’s really me! I made my first sourced comment the other day about Twitter and Elon Musk.
This just made my day, so glad poppin is here!
Can you (or anyone else) explain the circumstances around them defederating? More specifically, why would they do that, and what exactly is their benefit?
My understanding for Beehaw specifically is that it was a temporary measure to guard against the huge influx of users, as well as a way to stop trolls from creating duplicate accounts from World (since it’s popular and has open registration). Defederating gives them time to figure some things out and scale up if they want to.
The moderation tools available in Lemmy currently are a bit lacking so it put too much burden on Beehaw staff to moderate users from instances that allow fully open signup. Beehaw was seeing a large influx of trolls signing up on open signup instances and causing a lot of problems over there which eventually pushed the matter. For those unaware, Beehaw prides itself on keeping a tight lid on tolls and negativity so it was really against their ethos to not be able to keep up with it.
It’s worth noting that there is no hostility or anything between Beehaw and the other instance admins. Both sides admins have been openly posting about their discussions and both sides are looking forward to refederating as soon as the mod tools in Lemmy improve enough to do so.
.world doesn’t require as stringent verification and beehaw mods claimed that a lot of spam was coming from .world. I don’t know if that’s true, but that’s what they claimed.
Someone dug into the mod logs and found four or five instances of lemmy.world accounts being moderated on Beehaw. That’s all it took for them to defederate
Beehaw will probably die if they want to defederate from any largr instance with open signups. This whole system won’t work without open signups because no one wants to go through an interview process to use a social media site. They’ll leave or just cave and go back to reddit.
Fully agree. Ain’t nobody wanna audition just to talk to people online.
Make sure you throw him a dollar or two on patreon if you can. We don’t want this all to come crashing down around us or be loaded down by ads.
I was going to ask, is there a place where I can go in like pitch in some money or something to help with the server? I want to keep this place running and I want to do what I can to help
Ruud has a combined Patreon for lemmy.world and mastodon.world (he owns and maintains both). You can find that here: https://www.patreon.com/mastodonworld
I wish the only options weren’t to do a monthly subscription
Open collective allows for a one time donation: https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld
I pitched in 5 Euro. Credit union thought it was fishy lol
https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld
It even takes less of a cut than Patreon too.
Thanks donated 5 euros…I’m part of the revolution. Fuck you spez 😂
Thanks for this! I tend to lurk more than post so it is nice to be able to contribute to the upkeep
Thanks for the link! Came here looking for a way to help keep this place free (as in freedom) because I really want it to keep rolling :)
Done.
Yeah, the growth of world, ml, beehaw, and Lemmy in general over the last month is pretty incredible. I’m on five instances. And they’ve all grown incredibly.
It’ll be very interesting to see how the scalability shakes out over the next several months and beyond and what sort of growing pains there end up being with a system like this growing, especially so quickly. I’m a new user here just regularly reminding myself to be patient when things aren’t always snappy.
We all be going to Reddit and letting people know about the migration to Lemmy… And make sure to promote one of the 3rd party apps to the redditors. The best one I’ve tried so far is Connect for Lemmy on the Google play store.
Wefwef is really good too…feels like Apollo
I did my part. By which I mean I made an account and made a single comment (well, two now.)
Still hoping to find a good comparable app to Slide for Reddit. Liftoff for Lemmy has fairly similar comment layout at least.
Sync for Lemmy is coming. It was my favourite Reddit app. Should be good here too.
I’m using wefwef. Having used Apollo for almost 7 years, it makes Lemmy feels just like home!
Sync will be the game changer
Can’t wait for sync
Never tried Sync, I think. Maybe I’ll give it a try for Lemmy some point.
Former sync user, it was amazing! Can highly recommend. They have sign-ups open now for when it’s released for Lemmy :)
Using connect for lemmy and liftoff, can’t decide which to use permanently?
After playing with Connect, it feels a little more polished than Liftoff. But I think Connect has more dev time on it.
Connect and Jerboa are also alright. I think i like Jerboa the most so far
WefWef seemed pretty good. But wefwef being a web app just disappeared from my phone, along with a convention web app, after I restarted. Weird.
I’ll look up your suggestions. Liftoff doesn’t appear to have an inbox right now. At least not one I didn’t see.
The inbox is top left, awkward I know.
Yeah, saw it on the homepage, though not getting notifications for it. Had to come back and manually check. Probably just a communication error, getting a lot of errors lol.
Case in point: just got five+ "failed to post comment"s.
Also don’t see where to edit comments. But also probably something I’m just overlooking because I’m still new to this software.
Edit: just saw the three dots. Damn I’m blind.
WefWef keeps stopping when I’m trying to scroll. Like every fourth finger swipe of scrolling it does nothing. I like the visuals of it though. Personally I use Jerboa.
Glad it’s not just me
Started with Connect and didn’t find anything lacking that would make me want go looking for something else. Figure I will stay with it until the former reddit apps complete their ports.
Slide for Lemmy is in development, see /c/slide@feddit.uk
Dope. Had to hunt down the uh… “Sublemmy” I guess we’d call it? Maybe not. Community, anyway.
Link is being read as an email and Liftoff wants to open up Gmail for it. Which I get, looks like one.
Nobody mentioned Thunder so I’m going to mention it!
Nevermind heard of it. What’s your opinion?
Like how’s it compare to the others?
Same here Re: Slide, Liftoff does the trick for me and runs on android 7
It feels closer to it. I’m really looking forward to Slide for Lemmy to get completed.
Still completely broken right now. Only version 0.0.2. can’t even access a “sublemmy” without it crashing. Good enough to browse the frontpage and look at posts. Nothing else for now.
Using Connect at the moment. Bouncing between it and Liftoff.
My addiction have new management. A lot more community driven than the last one 😁
Glad to see Refugees like myself finding a new home. I’d be interested in sporting some merchandise it some of the proceeds go back into covering costs etc…
Understand the sentiment, but hey, in the meantime you could go old school and make some promo stuff yourself to sport if you’re crafty. It’d be even more in the spirit of this space than merch tbh!
I guess that’s because “World” is a pretty bold statement and suggests an expanse that can accommodate a truckload of migrants. Add to that the open signups and my natural aversion to smaller instances (I tend to think someone with a few users may feel tempted to pull the plug at any moment), and here we are. By the way, I have had a great experience with Connect for Lemmy - if anyone is interested.
congrats from .ca!
while im here: does anybody actually know why lemmy.world grew the fastest out of all of the instances? its not the “main” instance like .ml, not a safe space like beehaw, and a normal general instance like itjust.works. im curious why out of all places, .world got the main influx
I think it was the instance referenced in the RIF goodbye message. That’s what got me here, anyway.
Same here. Still haven’t figured Lemmy out, though. I figure it’s going to take a good while
Same with Sync, as well
Yep, same here.
.world is biggest because it’s the biggest. Also RIF.
Sync set up its community on .world, too. It’s essentially the go-to fleddit community.
oh damn a rif redirect happened?
Because on the main Lenny website world shows up as recommended. The other recommended sites want users to put an email in addition to a write up on what they can offer. Which totally kills interest for any new people.
I think the main Lenny website is to blame here tbh. It pushing users towards a few preset instances that are not really new user friendly.
Some are not accepting sign ups at all.
join-lemmy.org shows a few instances at the top of its join page:
lemmy.fmhy.ml (which is based)
sh.itjust.works which im pretty sure is having a free speech or too much user choice problem atm
lemm.ee, a general instance
sopuli.xyz, which i know nothing about (who is finn???)
i dont see .world until a further scroll down from those. did they change it?
.world sounded like it was the most “official” on a way? Maybe just bias but sometimes the shorthanded/links make web links sound less credible or not as major of a spot. Kbin.social kinda has that working for it too, .social and .world sounded like official gathering grounds by their naming.
For me it was the default option when I was trying to figure out how to create a login. When I googled “how to sign up for Lemmy” world was the top search result. Before signing up, I had a basic understanding of how this this worked from when I tried out Mastadon. I had read that it mattered way less which instance you chose because most of them spoke to each other unlike Mastadon, which was a big reason Mastadon failed to hold my interest. Since the instance doesn’t really matter, world was simply the easiest choice. I signed up, and downloaded the Connect app since it looks the most like Bacon Reader. So far everything works, makes sense, and I’m really enjoying everything!!
Oooh I have been waiting to see someone mention a BaconReader clone. I’m running Liftoff and it is perfectly serviceable and I appreciate the work the dev did to rejuvenate it from it’s defunct state, but I miss BaconReader. Is it easy to download and install?
Yup, Connect is pretty to install and use. Be warned that like all fediverse stuff, it has some rough edges and bugs!
For what it’s worth what sold me on .world is the slogan, front-page of the internet. It may or may not be misleading but I’m after a Reddit replacement with a mix of all communities.
As I explore more I may go elsewhere but so far it has the Reddit feel.
is the slogan, front-page of the internet
so far it has the Reddit feel
isnt that reddits slogan? no kidding, buddy. no kidding. (i mean this in a positive way)
For someone who just wanted to be able to interact and hadn’t a clue what anything was I figured world was the biggest. I think I kind of underatand how this works now? Though making a log in was much less intuitive and simple than anything else I feel I’ve ever come across.
Basically thought process was the word “world” encompasses a lot of places. It’s probably big and I’m tired of scrolling through stuff so I’ll use that.
Edit so if I make a new account or transfer this one or something to whatever the main one is will stuff load faster?
Going to a smaller instance might make things load faster because the smaller servers are under less strain. Tho some of the bigger servers are handling the influx of new users really well.
It also depends on what app youre using. I found jebora to be very slow/buggy. Connect for lemmy has wirked alot better for me.
Also a heads up: i think tools for transfering accounts to another server are still in development. So for the times being going to a different server means making a new account.
Gotcha. Yeah jebora is what I am currently using and did sort of suspect some issues are from it. Still getting used to it all so testing waters as I find them.
Makes sense, its a process figuring out which app and instance works best for you. Good luck & welcome to the fediverse :)
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Personally speaking, at the time I made this account it seemed one of the better open, general instances with a home domain that wouldn’t be kinda clunky to tell others about. Folks I’d suggest this to wouldn’t care about the shit just works jokey name, but they’d probably be a little annoyed at the whole sh dot itjust dot works formatting…Which even just saying that aloud kinda sucks.
If it were shit.just.works no big deal, but it’s not, so lemmy.world is easier to write & say by comparison. That all said, even more important to me than the name was whether the admin had any experience running a federated server before for awhile, which lemmy.world’s had via their hosting of mastodon.world, so I opted for this instance. There may have been other general instances at the time with similar experience that I overlooked tbh*, and I may still hop over to another at some point, but so far this one works decently enough to me.
*-I know of some “legacy” lemmy instances that kinda fit this description, like .ca or midwest.social, but I regarded those as more for folks from those areas, and Beehaw is a little too positivity focused for my tastes (I also don’t know that I’m “nice” enough to get along well there).
sh.itjust.works is an unbearable name to read. i read dots in a website link like the end of a sentence (ex lemmy.world would be lemmy {break} dot {break} world.) good instance, despise the name
.ml doesn’t have open signups rn iirc and .world was the most popular after that. I think that’s probably got something to do with it.
