Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don’t come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don’t really get upset by it IRL

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    Except you don’t see atheists throwing a tantrum. So not like atheism at all.

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      if you think internet atheists can’t be just as obnoxious as internet vegans you clearly haven’t been around enough of them.

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        The common denominator is the internet part though. The last obnoxious atheist I saw was 14, and I have yet to see an obnoxious vegan IRL

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        To be pendantic, the vocal atheists are more specifically antitheists as in they are opposed to theism, not just someone who doesn’t believe.

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            That’s your example? A sub being the default on Reddit? That’s equal to protests in the streets by vegans to you?

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                Atheists highlighting religious atrocities is very annoying, yes. Imagine just doing you thing, raping kids and murdering people for not believing in your religion and someone posting on Reddit about it. So annoying!

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                    lol. Me arguing on lemmy is the same as vegans protesting in the streets? Go touch some grass.

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                  My guy, I’m an atheist and a lot of the peeps on that subreddit were unbelievably obnoxious. Upvoting lame memes like “I’m at the library and I moved all the bibles to the fiction section LOL gottem!!”

                  Atheists, like any group, including vegans, have some amount of people who get to that obnoxious state with their ideology.

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              As an example of internet atheists being as obnoxious as internet vegans, yes that’s my example.

              Edit: with regards to the content it was posting back when it was a default, not the fact that it was a default

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      Get real. Every single group that lives outside the heteronormative, christian nationalist banner has fit-throwers. Saying that there aren’t those atheists but certainly are those vegans is as dumb as any other half-baked argument out there.

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        You make it sounds like the heteronormative, christian nationalist s don’t throw fits all the time.

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          How do I make it sound like that? All they do is cry and moan! They are the absolute worst of the fit-throwers. But way to dig deep into my comment for a complete nothing burger.

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            It’s a form of targeted religious fairness testing for sure, but I wouldn’t call TST a protest org. Nobody really stands outside and holds a banner as much as just filing lawsuits.

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              What is the difference between “religious fairness testing” and protesting? Is a protest not just an active resistance to the current legal status quo? How is a lawsuit not a protest?

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                I guess it depends on your active definition. Sure those are protest actions I guess, but contextually speaking I would understand “a protest” to be a gathering of people with signs or a message at a place of business, courthouse, or similar.

                At the intersection of religion and protest I’m in visioning WBC not TST.

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                    Yes, but but I’m not seeing your point. What I said in a round about way is this is a matter of perspective on “protest”. Generally speaking, I imagine a protest (noun) to be people in the street, while acts of protest (verb) to be generally more varied. This is by imagination and first reaction not strict dictionary definition.

                    To really drive this home, I don’t equate the satanic temple or atheism with people in the streets protesting. I’m happy to identify any other activities as protest or not by definition, but we’re really picking at my knee jerk reaction first comment, which yes may have been unintentionally and even inaccurately narrow.

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            I wouldn’t call them highlighting the hypocrisy of Christians the same as protesting out in the streets. The satanic temple is reactionary.

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              You know if you do the same for “atheists protest” tons of shit pops up too. Even ones without Megan Kelly. You position is so flimsy and yet you still are digging in. You are a reply away from “do your own research”. Embattled ideology always comes with protest. The absolute unmitigated smugness that one group of people are more annoying than another based on their ideology is problematic at best and at worst, you are a pube away from wearing a red hat and diapers.

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                You make me reconsider if I am on the right side of this, you are such an asshole that you drive people away from thinking of using trump as an insult

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                  What? I wasn’t even chatting to you. You don’t know who is or isn’t the asshole here or even if there is one. 1 misinformed idiot makes a broad generalization, I challenged them and then you come to their rescue with whatever point your are trying to make? Trump is a fucking loser making broad generalizations based on bullshit and lies. Which, on a small level, is the same as whatever idiot I was arguing with was doing - hence, the mention of the likeness.

                  If you are saying that I’m soooooo terrible that I put people off of using trump as a slur and or insult, you are on the wrong side of history.

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                    Bro, I meant that you are being so much of an asshole that I don’t want to use trump as an insult.

                    Now I understand why you’re hitting up my comments, I thought you were that vegan dude I blocked.

                    What was meant is that I love using the cheeeto in chief as an insult so much, that I would be sad to not have to use it as an insult because it a behavior that you are using.

                    But yeah, you are an asshole and I am sad that if I choose to continue to use the leader of the Gravy Seals as an insult, that people might associate with you.

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                  Looking at your comment history I’m right. You cheesy fuck. Do you have a red hat? I think you might. Hope you enjoy your meat lovers pizza as you try to wax on about vegan and atheist activism. That’s some real alpha shit.

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                    There’s nothing wrong with being a vegan or an atheist, no one has a problem with 99.9% of them and they are entitled to their life choices.

                    The alpha theory was disproven years ago and the ones that need to be alphas have their own issues to handle.

                    The pizza was delicious though, thank you!

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          Opposition to religious monuments on public grounds. They are low key and the only violence, vandalism, or public disturbances come from religious folks.