Things could change. That why it was brought up for debate. The debate could have concluded that changing defaults is not the right move.
It really is a branding issue.
And what would be the trademark(!) issue? The default desktop edition is called “Fedora Workstation”, not “Fedora Gnome”, so the branding is not tied to Gnome in any way. Seems more like an attempt to kill a discussion where the popular vote might be undesirable.
I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt in that they misspoke when saying trademark. Clearly it’s not that, but those nuances are not universally known.
And branding is not something up to popular vote. It’s, by definition, an image someone or some organization wants to project to the public. To them, they have spins for other DEs/WMs and that’s enough. And why wouldn’t it be?
The suggestion wasn’t about changing branding. It was about changing one default, just like when PipeWire replaced PulseAudio or when btrfs was elected to be the default FS. The product would still be called Fedora Workstation and kept its trademarks, logos,…
To them, they have spins for other DEs/WMs and that’s enough. And why wouldn’t it be?
Who is “them”? Clearly not the Fedora community or the community-elected Engineering Steering Committee. The ability to vote on that was taken away from them by one person unilaterally declaring that. FESCO would have decided to just keep Gnome. Looks to me like that one person would not wan to take any chances that the community-elected committee might vote differently.
The vote likely would of favored gnome. Fedora is enterprise oriented and focuses on being a new version of the stable enterprise. KDE changes very quickly and they do not fix bugs before introducing new features.
If anything the alternative would be xfce4 but that’s not viable for other reasons.
I came to Linux, started with random DistroWatch recommendations, then used Ubuntu based, thinking it was the most supported.
Then dared to use something else, right at the edge of modern but well supported, that was Fedora.
Came to Linux, found KDE on Manjaro and searched for a well working but not antique KDE Distro. Found it with Kinoite.
Not a single GNOME on that way :D
You can argue that GNOME is only used that much because it is “Workstation”. Literally doesnt even include the DE name.
But I see how RedHat really needs a testing ground, and I also see how GNOME is a desktop with quite a lot corpo stuff directly integrated. If I needed active directory, Exchange etc, it would be the best option.
Also, not having many options is great for a corpo DE.
They could make that argument then and not just close the topic by declaring it a trademark issue.
Fedora is recognized as the Gnome distro, though. It really is a branding issue.
Things could change. That why it was brought up for debate. The debate could have concluded that changing defaults is not the right move.
And what would be the trademark(!) issue? The default desktop edition is called “Fedora Workstation”, not “Fedora Gnome”, so the branding is not tied to Gnome in any way. Seems more like an attempt to kill a discussion where the popular vote might be undesirable.
I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt in that they misspoke when saying trademark. Clearly it’s not that, but those nuances are not universally known.
And branding is not something up to popular vote. It’s, by definition, an image someone or some organization wants to project to the public. To them, they have spins for other DEs/WMs and that’s enough. And why wouldn’t it be?
The suggestion wasn’t about changing branding. It was about changing one default, just like when PipeWire replaced PulseAudio or when btrfs was elected to be the default FS. The product would still be called Fedora Workstation and kept its trademarks, logos,…
Who is “them”? Clearly not the Fedora community or the community-elected Engineering Steering Committee. The ability to vote on that was taken away from them by one person unilaterally declaring that. FESCO would have decided to just keep Gnome. Looks to me like that one person would not wan to take any chances that the community-elected committee might vote differently.
The vote likely would of favored gnome. Fedora is enterprise oriented and focuses on being a new version of the stable enterprise. KDE changes very quickly and they do not fix bugs before introducing new features.
If anything the alternative would be xfce4 but that’s not viable for other reasons.
No need to kill it then. Obviously the Red Hat representative got cold feet.
Fedora describes itself as a community-led distribution, not as a corporate beta test for RHEL: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/
The enterprise is part community. Rocky is part of the community.
Rocky Linux is part of the Fedora community? WTF?
What WTF? They are part of the community
Is it? I didnt find it looking for GNOME.
I came to Linux, started with random DistroWatch recommendations, then used Ubuntu based, thinking it was the most supported.
Then dared to use something else, right at the edge of modern but well supported, that was Fedora.
Came to Linux, found KDE on Manjaro and searched for a well working but not antique KDE Distro. Found it with Kinoite.
Not a single GNOME on that way :D
You can argue that GNOME is only used that much because it is “Workstation”. Literally doesnt even include the DE name.
But I see how RedHat really needs a testing ground, and I also see how GNOME is a desktop with quite a lot corpo stuff directly integrated. If I needed active directory, Exchange etc, it would be the best option.
Also, not having many options is great for a corpo DE.