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Argentina formally requested on Thursday to join NATO as a global partner, a status that would clear the way for greater political and security cooperation at a time when the right-wing government of President Javier Milei aims to boost ties with Western powers and attract investment.
The request came as NATO’s Deputy General Secretary Mircea Geoana held talks in Brussels on regional security challenges with visiting Argentine Defense Minister Luis Petri.
Geoana said he welcomed Argentina’s bid to become an accredited partner in the alliance — a valued role short of “ally” for nations that are not in NATO’s geographical area and not required to take part in collective military actions. NATO membership is currently limited to countries of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the United States.
The designation could allow Argentina access to advanced technology, security systems and training not previously available to it, the Argentine presidency said.
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That headline is misleading. They don’t want to join NATO. They want to be a NATO partner like a few other countries not in North America or Europe. They wouldn’t be part of the mutual defense pact but their military and arms dealers would use NATO “standards.”
It’s probably more about him wanting Argentina to manufacture some NATO-approved weapons — like get a subcontract to make spare parts and ammo for NATO tanks — and also modernize Argentina’s military by training with NATO countries
Sweden and Finland joining NATO: We had good reasons not to join previously, but we’re now genuinely worried about Russia’s recent expansionism, and as its neighbours, and we want tighter military cooperation with our allies.
Milei joining NATO: Man wouldn’t I look cool in the photo.
It’s part if his well thought out strategy of “please let me part of the cool kids group I’ll do anything I’ll strip down the country and sell it for scraps just let me smell Ayn Rand’s clothes”
Worked great for Yelstin
If they were to expand it beyond the region, you’d expect a few other countries to join before Argentina: Japan and South Korea, to name two.
Turkey is already part of NATO and they aren’t on the Atlantic at all.
While they have coasts on several seas, they’re closer to the Indian ocean than they are the Atlantic Ocean.NATO was always a military alliance built in opposition to Russia (back then the USSR), so Turkey had a lot of strategic value. The US has different sorts of relationships with countries that have no strategic interest in relation to Russia (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan), and NATO as a whole has nothing to gain from welcoming Argentina.
If you don’t think Japan has strategic interest in relation to Russia, you need to go brush up on your history and geography.
Japan’s position today has nothing to do with their position a hundred years ago. They don’t have Korea, they don’t have Manchuria, they don’t have an hyper-militaristic nation willing to throw bodies at a pointless war, and their main geopolitical priority right now is watching out for China doing something stupid, while their main conflict with Russia is a bunch of small islands with very low value.
Japan and South Korea are already global partners
Just a reminder that NATO used to stand for North Atlantic yada yada. Should I expect Japan to relocate to Atlantic Ocean anytime?
I’m not sure membership decisions should be primarily based on whether the acronym works well
Sad acronym noises
The US should take South America more seriously rather than the historical approach of trying to undermine them
Argentina is their best option for that currently
But it is interesting how many commentators jump into any NATO conversation to say it’s a bad idea
Time to rename it to ATO
This seems like a great opportunity to just rename it to “the west”
Screw it, let’s name it TO and get Australia and Japan in there
fascists can get fucked
Aren’t they also trying to join bricks. Are they just signing up to everything as a last gasp to save the country?
We are not, milei drop that when he became president
I am surprised, why did he drop it?
Officialy? China bad, russian commies bad, US hell yeah, israel the superior race, eagles and freedom rules!!
Unofficially? Who knows. China and the US have been arm wrestling here for different topics. For example, we are buying f16 because USA gave a counteroffer so we dont buy chinese jets (now, staying close to nato could just be a way to ensure that we get f16 spare parts). The same happened (many times) when we were debating about buying a chinese PWR.
Now there is some fuzz about who controls the pass near tierra del fuego. China was building a restricted port and they already have a military base. US is now doing it too, but at least they promise to do it in colaboration with us… if this thing is real, it would be a miracle if we end the next decade still controlling Patagonia.
Complete moron.
Mostly he’s an asshole
I dunno, he is a giant asshole but a guy who uses a psychic to ask for political advise from his cloned dogs who he believes are reincarnations and can see the future is more of a moron to me. Almost as much of a moron as his voters.
We don’t need any fascists in NATO. Go knock at Russia’s door.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The request came as NATO’s Deputy General Secretary Mircea Geoana held talks in Brussels on regional security challenges with visiting Argentine Defense Minister Luis Petri.
Geoana said he welcomed Argentina’s bid to become an accredited partner in the alliance — a valued role short of “ally” for nations that are not in NATO’s geographical area and not required to take part in collective military actions.
Milei has been pushing a radical libertarian agenda aimed at reversing years of protectionist trade measures, overspending and crippling international debt that have plunged the country’s economy into a tailspin.
On Thursday, the U.S. government announced it was providing Argentina with $40 million in foreign military financing for the first time in more than two decades — a grant that allows key U.S. allies like Israel to buy American weaponry.
Defense Minister Petri hailed the acquisition of the advanced warplanes as “the most important military purchase since Argentina’s return to democracy” in 1983.
In a largely symbolic move to thank the pro-American government at the time for sending troops on peacekeeping operations to Bosnia, former President Bill Clinton designated Argentina “major non-NATO ally” in 1998.
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Milei is a POS, but Argentina would be a valuable addition to NATO, and hopefully set a precedent for accepting nations outside of Europe/North America. NATO rules would need an update though, I believe, since afaik they only cover territory in a limited geographical region, which I think Argentina may not be within?
Would the territorial dispute with the UK over the Falklands not be a prohibiting factor, though? Perhaps the low practical value of the Falklands would be outweighed by the benefits of NATO membership. It would be a nice win if this resolved that dispute.
Fascists aren’t welcome in Nato. We already have Hungary and Italy to deal with.
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First Qatar, and now Argentina.
And if the latter also gets rejected, then I could say that history repeats itself.
Based
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Argentina is one of the countries with the most coastline on the Atlantic Ocean.
That’s fair, in my defense though it was early and I was thinking of Chile
