Good thing we (the US) lost the war, or this lady would probably have her own team of lobbyists running their country.

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    you don’t keep that control over billionaires.their money has too much loyalty.

    so they need to be killed. I do agree that the state shouldn’t be making the decision, but Vietnam is weird and still at least dresses up as communist.

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      you don’t keep that control over billionaires.their money has too much loyalty.

      Once you take the money they aren’t billionaires anymore.

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        but money is just an idea; easier to put a bullet in them than rewrite the entire social perception of them.

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          It’s easier to put bullets in things than to do alot of things, what’s your point?

          It’s easier to shoot someone than to change your sheets but it doesn’t make your bed smell less of piss.

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            it takes seconds, other way takes years, and its not worth risking it getting away. it’s not human anymore, and its a danger to humans, so if its not down for trying to be human again; kill it. don’t waste the effort when there are living people who need help.

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              it takes seconds, other way takes years,

              And you end up with dirty sheets. No matter how fast it is it doesn’t address your problem.

              Don’t call people “it” my dude.
              Irrespective how monstrous a person acts they’re still a human and you can’t distance yourself and your capacity to engage in the same monsterousness they did by dehumanizing them.

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                so I dont care about biology-on a moral level; obviously its cool and I need to think about it at lunch- a life is precious for actual reasons

                and being wealthy diminishes just about all of those reasons.scientifically, there are studies that prove it. the wealthy are less intelligent less logic less compassionate less connected to the world. they dehumanize, in the terms that matter to me, themselves.

                I’m not suggesting you should get the wall the moment your income slips into six figures, but in extreme cases, where all humanity has fled, theres nothing worth keeping there. its an it. no moral wrong in killing it, at least no more than a rat.

                now, I’m not going to go around smashing rats in a hydraulic press for fun. that’s sick. but I’m only going to spend so much time doing catch and release in my pantry before I try poison or snapping their necks, because I have other fucking shit to do with my life, and I dont consider the rat worth that much fucking time.

                biionaires get coddled from every direction. if nurturing warm fuzzy feelings were going to work, they would have by now, so I’m in favor of actually fixing the problem. that means a guillotine.

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                  and being wealthy diminishes just about all of those reasons.scientifically, there are studies that prove it. the wealthy are less intelligent less logic less compassionate less connected to the world.

                  So take their money.

                  they dehumanize, in the terms that matter to me, themselves.

                  You dehumanize yourself when you dehumanize others.

                  I’m in favor of actually fixing the problem. that means a guillotine.

                  How did that work out for Robespierre?

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                    take their money

                    money isn’t money though.

                    money us the concept of deserving and promise of agency, which has been pressed so deep into them that they are stained with it, to any remaining capitalist loyalists or other idiots.

                    you can take their money, but that isn’t really taking their money. youd need to take their faces, their names, their fingerprints, And the memories of all their secret stashes or things they could use to authenticate to associates. which seems way more fucked than just killing them.

                    dehumanize yourself

                    in what ways? ive been through an amount of shit, already skewed pretty far from default. might not be in a way that matters to me. hell, if you could lower my very human chance of breast cancer, I might even be willing to do something I find unpleasant.

                    generally I agree, but you need to be more specific here. maybe if I salt half as many people arguing half as much for the dignity and humanity of the unhoused and laboring classes, it would be easier to rake this shit seriously, but I’m not going to devote a second more than necessary to dealing with billionaires, and in a revolution, that means a bullet.

                    Robespierre

                    that fucker’s problem was trying to autocratically lead a movement of popular power while keeping the people infantilized. nothing wrong with killing the aristocracy.

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        Taking their money away isn’t enough. These billionaires often have deep connections to people who could easily help them regain their wealth and power. I’m not sure what the answer is but taking the money won’t solve the problem in every case.

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          These billionaires often have deep connections to people who could easily help them regain their wealth and power.

          So take their money too.