All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

  • UnderScore@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    The fact that some of the gen Z crowd think it will be horrible have forgotten that it was much easier to carry 2 batteries and swap them out vs carrying a charger and cable with you everywhere. Pop in the new battery, power it on and carry on with you now full battery phone. Being tethered to a wall so you can have 10% from 20 minutes of charging is crazy.

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      11 months ago

      Don’t forget the option to carry a 30lb battery bank everywhere with you so you’re at least tethered to something marginally more movable than a wall.

      Seriously though, I miss my phone+battery in one charger and the ability to restart with full battery at around 4pm.

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        11 months ago

        I know you are intentionally exaggerating a bit, but they do make pretty small portable chargers. I have an Anker PowerCore 5000, it has 1-2 full charges depending on your phone, and easily fits in a pocket

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      11 months ago

      I used to do this. I thought it was awesome but I was literally the only person I ever knew who did this. It was not a popular thing to do.

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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        11 months ago

        Zero lemon had them so cheap that I had 4 extra batteries (they also had the extended batteries that would last forever but the cases were janky). I would keep one at work, one by the door to take with me and two at home if you include the one in my phone that I would swap out. I rarely charged my phone at all, just the batteries. I loved it.

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        11 months ago

        Most people did not do this nor needed to since the very beginning of cell phones

        We literally do not need replaceable batteries in 2023

        • PanchoAventuras@lemmy.world
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          11 months ago

          Maybe, but you have to admit that battery live used to be longer (specially pre-smartphones), if your phone could comfortably last a couple of days there was less need to have portable power.

          I fondly remember the convenience of having a flat, replaceable battery in my pocket even in the early Android days, and I’ve missed it ever since it went away.

    • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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      11 months ago

      The main reason I’m thinking of upgrading my mid-range phone now is the battery is on its last legs.

      In fairness it’s lasted 6 years, which is two years more than my Nexus 4 got. Pokemon Go eventually killed that.

      I don’t know when we all just collectively accepted that batteries should last one day and not a second more. Sure, it’s doing more than a Nokia 3310 ever did, but sometimes you really do need it to last more than that, like when travelling.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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        11 months ago

        You’re not going to get a bigger battery though. Battery size is a pretty much maxed out, the only way to make a battery bigger would be to make the battery physically bigger. This would make the phone bigger / heavier. So it’s not going to happen.

        If you are waiting on some magic new battery chemistry it’ll come along eventually but you’ll be waiting a while, and stubbornly not having a replaceable battery in the meantime isn’t going to make any difference.

        • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          11 months ago

          There’s some huge battery breakthroughs going on right now. You’re right though, I would give it another 5 or so before they’re widespread among phones.

    • Syrc@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      What is this sorcery? Wouldn’t this cause issues with internal clock and stuff?

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        11 months ago

        Not really. The phone, especially these days, would just synchronise the internal clock as soon as it got internet access, and unless you’re leaving it powered down for long periods of time, there’s enough power for it to keep the last set time, if it doesn’t keep it indefinitely.

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          11 months ago

          Huh. My mom has a flip phone that messes everything up when the battery comes off so I figured that it would be the same for newer ones too.

          If switching batteries is actually doable with next to zero inconveniences… 2027 can’t come soon enough.

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            11 months ago

            Huh. My mom has a flip phone that messes everything up when the battery comes off so I figured that it would be the same for newer ones too.

            Assuming you mean an older flip phone, those tended to have problems (they probably had no way to fetch the time compared to modern smartphones), but they’ve not been an issue for a while, in my experience.

            I regularly swapped the batteries on my old Nokia/Samsung smartphones without running into clock problems at all, since they would synchronise the moment they connected to the network, and got internet access, if they didn’t keep the time in the first place.

            • Syrc@lemmy.world
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              11 months ago

              It’s from 2011 (it’s also not a flip but a slider, I messed up my terminology), if the issue got solved since then that’s great.