Why Is Ocean Heat Smashing Records? It’s More Than Just Climate Change.
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There have been record temperatures every day for more than a year. Scientists are investigating what’s behind the extraordinary measurements.

“There’s no ambiguity about the data,” said Gavin Schmidt, a climatologist and the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. “So really, it’s a question of attribution.”

Understanding what specific physical processes are behind these temperature records will help scientists improve their climate models and better predict temperatures in the future.

  • bloodfart@lemmy.mlEnglish
    32·
    9 个月前

    I don’t know what that means.

    You made a claim, I said nuh uh, you said prove it, I said you ought to be proving your claim since the entirety of history about your claim in the broadest sense shows the opposite, in the specific sense you’re making it we have an example of your claim being wrong in our living memories and even if somehow your claim were actually true it wouldn’t lead to the result you try to show.

    Put up or shut up. Explain how showing people around you that it’s possible to live without fossil fuels will change behavior in aggregate.

      • bloodfart@lemmy.mlEnglish
        21·
        9 个月前

        If it’s not clear that I have provided plenty of evidence:

        You said

        Individually, what you do is tiny, but as you show people around you that it’s possible to live without fossil fuels, it changes behavior in the aggregate.

        I said nuh uh, you said prove it and I said

        When the plastics industry, an industry concerned with the mere byproducts of fossil fuel extraction, realized that public opinion was turning against their products, they created a multibillion dollar campaign to convince everyone that those plastics were fine and would be recycled even though the technology was never available or cost effective for large scale use and all that plastic waste was just getting dumped in landfills and shipped across the ocean to foreign landfills.

        That misinformation was the accepted wisdom for thirty years.

        That’s what the industry concerned with the unavoidable byproducts of extraction and refinement of fossil fuels did when everyone started to turn against them after literal decades of grassroots propaganda around litter.

        They gaslit the world into believing that it was okay to use plastics for packaging because they could be recycled.

        I showed evidence that boycotts won’t work. Show me evidence that they will.

        • silence7@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
          11·
          9 个月前

          So let’s summarize:

          • You make a dubious claim
          • I ask for evidence
          • You claim that I’m the one responsible for evidence
          • I point out how you’re trolling
          • You say again that I’m the one who is supposed to give evidence
          • I point out that this makes it clear you have none
          • You tell me that I’m a troll

          If you had evidence, you’d have shown it by now. But you don’t.