One minute you’re doing the downward dog, the next you’re listening to conspiracy theories about Covid or the new world order. How did the desire to look after yourself become so toxic?
Yeah, people often talk about scammers and grifters and how “insert-ableist-slurs” and “gullible” people who believe them are, but none of those “I’d ever fall for that!!1” types ever look at why people were so easily convinced, what large chunks of care are missing in society that people have no choice but to be drawn to the “alternatives” no matter how bogus or even dangerous - at some point the system has let you down so dramatically that even if it did finally offer a solution, you’d have no reason to trust it.
The result of which is instead of trying to better the system so that fewer people get treated poorly or not at all, they just shift the blame to those who fell victim to the scan, and can pat themselves on the back for being “better” without actually doing fuck all but ridicule vulnerable people.
People like that are just as much a part of the problem - the grifters give them someone to ridicule and feel superior to, they pander to the ego of the “unconvinced” as much as, if not more, than to the ego of the people they’re trying to scam, giving that (ego boost) up even if it is to do the right thing (but in favour of those these individuals see as lesser) just doesn’t make sense to them.
It’s such an exhausting problem that so many people hold society back from meeting everyone’s needs, because society fails to meet everyone’s needs and thereby creates people who hold society back from meeting everyone’s needs, because…
It feels like being locked in a room full of people flinging shit at each other because they are mad that people won’t stop flinging shit at them and everytime you try to gently suggest they all just stop flinging shit they just start flinging it at you until you shut up.
Crab mentality is by design, and the only way out is to look at who’s fucking bucket it is.
So
it’s such an exhausting problem that so many people hold society back from meeting everyone’s needs
while this is true on the surface, to find the core of the problem you have to look at who actually benefit from this state of affairs and never forget that it’s those few who hold society back, not the many people they pit against each other to stop us from turning on them.
There is definitely a small set of powerful, rich, and influential people who “benefit”, but I don’t think it’s a pyramid of nefarious overlords so much as it is just a large web of people acting on their own interests.
The same could be said for people with crab mentality. They are acting on their impulses, values, and opinions, born from likely unfortunate circumstances, when they drag their immediate others down. They aren’t thinking about holding society back at large.
Plus, quite often things are the way they are because of historical inertia. It’s why historians place make such a big deal about continuity. For example, many laws we have can be traced back to some series of awful events that happened to a set of people. But those awful events were probably caused by yet another set of awful circumstances.
If you’re looking for some group of people to blame for all of your woes, you might just become a fascist.
There is definitely a small set of powerful, rich, and influential people who “benefit”, but I don’t think it’s a pyramid of nefarious overlords so much as it is just a large web of people acting on their own interests.
The same could be said for people with crab mentality. They are acting on their impulses, values, and opinions, born from likely unfortunate circumstances, when they drag their immediate others down. They aren’t thinking about holding society back at large.
Those are all just crabs in the bucket. Some of the more aggressively single-minded ones are nearer to the top of the pile than others.
You’re entirely reading what you want to read out of my words, and then promptly applying some vague label as if you’re somehow the most enlightened yourself. As if, probabilistically, we both aren’t in very similar circumstances being here this very moment in the system that you seem to so despite.
I don’t actually think you’re asking in good faith with the bot joke, but if you really care you don’t need to look that hard, they are literally all around you (the person who pays your wages after they’ve pocketed most of the value of your labour, the person who collects your rent by commodifying and profiteering off of a basic human right to shelter, the government that allows them to continue to do so and worse, and who also privatise your national services for personal gain and much much more), you just need to open your eyes to how they exploit you and the rest of society.
It’s called capitalism, look it up.
And no, abolishing capitalism isn’t fascism, it’s quite literally the opposite (since capitalism in decay isfascism as we can see being demonstrated around us in real time).
The other person saying that targeting an individual group of people turns you in to a fascist is full of shit in this instance (and is acting exactly like a “crab” who refuses to acknowledge the “bucket” even exists, but instead tries their best to keep down those who do because they threaten the status quo this person is obviously comfortable enough in) - capitalism isn’t a marginalised or oppressed group it is an active marginalisation and oppressing machine, and standing up to oppressors does not equal oppression, it’s literally liberation.
Yeah, people often talk about scammers and grifters and how “insert-ableist-slurs” and “gullible” people who believe them are, but none of those “I’d ever fall for that!!1” types ever look at why people were so easily convinced, what large chunks of care are missing in society that people have no choice but to be drawn to the “alternatives” no matter how bogus or even dangerous - at some point the system has let you down so dramatically that even if it did finally offer a solution, you’d have no reason to trust it.
The result of which is instead of trying to better the system so that fewer people get treated poorly or not at all, they just shift the blame to those who fell victim to the scan, and can pat themselves on the back for being “better” without actually doing fuck all but ridicule vulnerable people.
People like that are just as much a part of the problem - the grifters give them someone to ridicule and feel superior to, they pander to the ego of the “unconvinced” as much as, if not more, than to the ego of the people they’re trying to scam, giving that (ego boost) up even if it is to do the right thing (but in favour of those these individuals see as lesser) just doesn’t make sense to them.
It’s such an exhausting problem that so many people hold society back from meeting everyone’s needs, because society fails to meet everyone’s needs and thereby creates people who hold society back from meeting everyone’s needs, because…
It feels like being locked in a room full of people flinging shit at each other because they are mad that people won’t stop flinging shit at them and everytime you try to gently suggest they all just stop flinging shit they just start flinging it at you until you shut up.
Crab mentality is by design, and the only way out is to look at who’s fucking bucket it is.
So
while this is true on the surface, to find the core of the problem you have to look at who actually benefit from this state of affairs and never forget that it’s those few who hold society back, not the many people they pit against each other to stop us from turning on them.
How does one find those few people? And how can they be worked against? I honestly don’t know and I don’t know how to find out. Do I ask ChatGPT???
Shit, maybe I should ask ChatGPT…
There is definitely a small set of powerful, rich, and influential people who “benefit”, but I don’t think it’s a pyramid of nefarious overlords so much as it is just a large web of people acting on their own interests.
The same could be said for people with crab mentality. They are acting on their impulses, values, and opinions, born from likely unfortunate circumstances, when they drag their immediate others down. They aren’t thinking about holding society back at large.
Plus, quite often things are the way they are because of historical inertia. It’s why historians place make such a big deal about continuity. For example, many laws we have can be traced back to some series of awful events that happened to a set of people. But those awful events were probably caused by yet another set of awful circumstances.
If you’re looking for some group of people to blame for all of your woes, you might just become a fascist.
Those are all just crabs in the bucket. Some of the more aggressively single-minded ones are nearer to the top of the pile than others.
right, because looking to free yourself from the grip of fascism = fascism.
But hey, thanks for the live demonstration of how a crab in a bucket might actively keep themselves and others in that bucket!
You “enlightened” centrists never cease to amaze me with the bullshit you pull out.
You’re entirely reading what you want to read out of my words, and then promptly applying some vague label as if you’re somehow the most enlightened yourself. As if, probabilistically, we both aren’t in very similar circumstances being here this very moment in the system that you seem to so despite.
@okmko @DessertStorms
#EatTheRich
I don’t actually think you’re asking in good faith with the bot joke, but if you really care you don’t need to look that hard, they are literally all around you (the person who pays your wages after they’ve pocketed most of the value of your labour, the person who collects your rent by commodifying and profiteering off of a basic human right to shelter, the government that allows them to continue to do so and worse, and who also privatise your national services for personal gain and much much more), you just need to open your eyes to how they exploit you and the rest of society.
It’s called capitalism, look it up.
And no, abolishing capitalism isn’t fascism, it’s quite literally the opposite (since capitalism in decay is fascism as we can see being demonstrated around us in real time).
The other person saying that targeting an individual group of people turns you in to a fascist is full of shit in this instance (and is acting exactly like a “crab” who refuses to acknowledge the “bucket” even exists, but instead tries their best to keep down those who do because they threaten the status quo this person is obviously comfortable enough in) - capitalism isn’t a marginalised or oppressed group it is an active marginalisation and oppressing machine, and standing up to oppressors does not equal oppression, it’s literally liberation.
It certainly feels like a runaway process