Besides putting too many devices on a single wall socket, that draw too much power, what is supposed to happen?

Like say I chain ten dividers and put a single vacuum cleaner at the end. Is that more dangerous than plugging it directly into the wall?

  • cynar@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Short answer, it’s actually not.

    The actual danger is overloading a socket. This is significantly easier with a chain of extensions.

    Resistance on the individual plugs shouldn’t be an actual issue. The only way it might come into play is if you are using a switch mode power supply at the end. This would adjust its current draw to account the reduced voltage. This would increase the current draw at the plug.

    E.g. a PSU trying to draw 1000W. At 120V this would be 8.33A. If you drop 30V, then the supply would draw 11.1A. The intermediate plugs would dissipate 333W. You would be drawing 1333W from the wall.

    In countries with low AC voltages, and a lack of fused plugs, this could overload a socket and cause a fire.

    It’s also worth noting that long extensions have the same issue though it’s less. They also have a far lower rating when coiled than when uncoiled. E.g. I have a 13A extension that can only provide 4A when fully cooled.

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      7 months ago

      They also have a far lower rating when coiled than when uncoiled. E.g. I have a 13A extension that can only provide 4A when fully cooled.

      Do yours stop providing amperage when coiled? Or do they just get really hot? Because that’s what happens when you overdraw.

      Divisors can be quite dangerous for this reason IF they don’t have a fuse. Some cheap dividers have a switch but don’t actually have a fuse or breaker in them so they can be overloaded and set fires.

      That extension cord you mentioned is also a huge problem because you can easily get past 13A from a divider and cause the extension cord to become a liability. Whenever you get long extension cords, especially if they are general use or for high-powered devices, ensure they are rated for 15-20A, 14 or 12 gauge.

      Here’s more info from Technology Connections: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_q-xnYRugQ

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        7 months ago

        I’m UK based, so all our plugs are fused. We also work at 240VAC.

        As for my extension, it has no limiter on current, other than the 13A fuse. It does have a thermal cutoff built into it’s reel however. It might not be enough to stop the cable getting melty, but it should stop it catching fire. It would require a very high load, for a long time to reach that point however.

        As I said, multi adapters aren’t inherently dangerous. They just make it easier to create a dangerous situation, if used inappropriately.

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    7 months ago

    Other commenters have pointed out the problems with overloading of connectors and reduced efficiency because of the added resistance but there is another really important reason not to chain power strips: circuit breakers work best against short circuits when the resistance between the breaker and the short is fairly low (for instance less than 0.5Ω) so that the current will quickly go over the rated current of the breaker. If the resistance is a lot higher because you have too many extensions between the breaker and the fault, the time the breaker needs to react will go up. Counterintuitively this usually means more energy will be turned to heat by the fault.

    In extreme cases this can mean the difference between a broken power strip that you can just throw out and a burned down house.

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    7 months ago

    The longer the run with more connections, the greater the voltage drop, the more stress on anything involved.

    That means more power usage and higher likelihood of a failure vs directly plugging the same device into the outlet. So it is better to use an extension cord than chained power strips.

    It is especially dangerous to have chained power strips that you load up due to fire risk that isn’t necessarily mitigated by the breaker.

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    7 months ago

    Each connector has a little bit of resistance and thus increases heat. This is compounded by the voltage loss, so each one gets a little bit worst.