Oregon Senate passes 'Trenton's' e-bike law; sends to Kotek for signature
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The Oregon Senate passed a bill updating laws around electric bicycles on Monday. It's named for a Bend teen killed in a collision while riding an e-bike last summer.
  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.worldEnglish
    35·
    8 months ago

    I don’t disagree that roads can feel unsafe. But there’s an important detail about sidewalk riding: you can be traveling against the direction of traffic. This is demonstrably dangerous at any kind of lot entry or any time cars can traverse the sidewalk path, because there should not be vehicle traffic moving in a different direction.

    So I’d say both parts are true. Bikers may feel unsafe and may be unsafe on congested roads (or especially roads without dedicated bike paths), but riding on sidewalks is actually demonstrably unsafe for the biker (not to mention unsafe for anyone walking on the sidewalk).

    • vividspecter@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      8 months ago

      This is demonstrably dangerous at any kind of lot entry or any time cars can traverse the sidewalk path, because there should not be vehicle traffic moving in a different direction.

      It depends on the sidewalks. They should be on a different grade, and separated from the road by some distance. Although part of the problem is that SUVs jump kerbs more easily, and this type of “car” has become dominant in recent years.

      • jerkface@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        8 months ago

        While “it depends,” overall we have undeniable statistical data that a km on a sidewalk is on average more dangerous than a km on the road.

      • circuitfarmer@lemmy.worldEnglish
        33·
        8 months ago

        They should be on a different grade

        This doesn’t apply to parking entrances or other areas where cars are expected to cross the sidewalk, which is the specific portion of that point.

        And the bigger point in my view is pedestrians. I don’t believe that pedestrians should need to deal with bikers on the sidewalk. It’s called a sidewalk for a reason. Walk the bike.

        I understand bikers being upset about unsafe road conditions, but lessening safety of sidewalks for pedestrians is not the answer.

        • vividspecter@lemm.eeEnglish
          6·
          8 months ago

          All of these issues are systemic issues and a failure of infrastructure. It’s fine on an individual level to say that riding on footpaths isn’t ideal, but ultimately people are going to do it no matter how much you call them out for it, if they feel it’s the safer option than riding on the road. So if you don’t give people a safe option to ride their bikes, then they are going to have to pick between multiple unsafe options, which is not ideal when you are trying to drive an uptake in cycling. And the most important way to make cycling and walking safer, is to increase their popularity, because it means there are less cars, and cars are a much more serious threat to pedestrians.

          Anyway, we are probably talking past each other a bit. I think that in the end you are talking about sensible individual choices (which is fine), but I feel that the majority of efforts and discussion need to be directed at governments if we want to make cycling so safe that even a 5 year can ride around unsupervised.