If your intent is to give me hours worth of reading by link spamming then I have some bad news for you. I’m not reading all that.
Have you listened to season one of the Martyr Made Podcast? It does a pretty decent job of covering the early 20th century reinvention of Israel long before the 40s. And the baby steps of the apartheid in the later half of that century. Anyway, you keep avoiding my question so I’m going to assume you aren’t arguing in good faith. You have just one side you are willing to discuss and anything on the intent of the other side is something you dodge. You aren’t having a conversation. You are pushing an agenda. And I just don’t have time for that.
If you click the history link you’ll see even more sources about both sides of the conflict. You can look at any of the sources to learn more. If you want a genuine history of the conflict, I suggest you look at the works by new Historians Ilan Pappe, Rashid Khalidi, or Avi Shlaim. Why would I listen to a podcast over the works of actual Historians on the subject.
Genocide is neither the historical goal, the official goal, the stated goal of the Oct 7th attack, or within the means of Hamas. It’s a bad question. And it ignores the will of Palestinians too, which you can see from the polls I also linked.
I looked at the episode synopsis list. I can’t tell who’s making the podcasts or their credibility. From the look of it doesn’t seem as in-depth as I would expect, I don’t see a mention of settler Colonialism. Maybe it’s a good place to start. But if that’s where you learned (falsely) that Palestinians have been wanting genocide, while also leaving out all the other events I referenced; sorry but I don’t consider it a good source compared to actual Historians that have exhaustively researched all this. Personally, I recommend the work of Ilan Pappe. He uses Israeli sources, Arab sources, official Israeli documentation, and oral history to show a very comprehensive and detailed history of the conflict. The book A History of Two Peoples has a lot of information since the early Zionists settlements in the 1920s. He also has multiple books on audible if you’d prefer to listen than read.
And, apparently, if you don’t want to learn more you have plenty of excuses. You’d love the opening because it fully supports your view but instead of exploring a few minutes of audio you decided to do research to confirm that you don’t know anything about it and dismissed it without even trying it.
If your intent is to give me hours worth of reading by link spamming then I have some bad news for you. I’m not reading all that.
Have you listened to season one of the Martyr Made Podcast? It does a pretty decent job of covering the early 20th century reinvention of Israel long before the 40s. And the baby steps of the apartheid in the later half of that century. Anyway, you keep avoiding my question so I’m going to assume you aren’t arguing in good faith. You have just one side you are willing to discuss and anything on the intent of the other side is something you dodge. You aren’t having a conversation. You are pushing an agenda. And I just don’t have time for that.
If you click the history link you’ll see even more sources about both sides of the conflict. You can look at any of the sources to learn more. If you want a genuine history of the conflict, I suggest you look at the works by new Historians Ilan Pappe, Rashid Khalidi, or Avi Shlaim. Why would I listen to a podcast over the works of actual Historians on the subject.
Genocide is neither the historical goal, the official goal, the stated goal of the Oct 7th attack, or within the means of Hamas. It’s a bad question. And it ignores the will of Palestinians too, which you can see from the polls I also linked.
You spent all that time compiling all those resources and you expect me to believe that you wouldn’t be interested? That’s straining credibility.
Try listening to the first 7 minutes of the first episode. A person would have to be defective to not be instantly interested in more.
https://www.martyrmade.com/podcast-parts/1-fear-and-loathing-in-the-new-jerusalem
I looked at the episode synopsis list. I can’t tell who’s making the podcasts or their credibility. From the look of it doesn’t seem as in-depth as I would expect, I don’t see a mention of settler Colonialism. Maybe it’s a good place to start. But if that’s where you learned (falsely) that Palestinians have been wanting genocide, while also leaving out all the other events I referenced; sorry but I don’t consider it a good source compared to actual Historians that have exhaustively researched all this. Personally, I recommend the work of Ilan Pappe. He uses Israeli sources, Arab sources, official Israeli documentation, and oral history to show a very comprehensive and detailed history of the conflict. The book A History of Two Peoples has a lot of information since the early Zionists settlements in the 1920s. He also has multiple books on audible if you’d prefer to listen than read.
You failed to understand the assignment.
Well if you’re interested in learning more, you have plenty of places to start
And, apparently, if you don’t want to learn more you have plenty of excuses. You’d love the opening because it fully supports your view but instead of exploring a few minutes of audio you decided to do research to confirm that you don’t know anything about it and dismissed it without even trying it.