• Pillarist@lemmy.world
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    One of the last messages from the developer of Sync had said they were considering making a Sync for Lemmy… The guy’s attention to detail and customizability of Sync for Reddit has me hoping real hard for that.

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      I would actually spend money on Lemmy Sync. Though I’d also love if some of the Reddit app devs went grey hat and implemented token spoofing like Twidere on Android has for Twitter - that app lets me view my Mastodon “timeline” and Twitter timeline in the same feed by telling Twitter’s API that it’s totally the normal iPhone Twitter app.

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      Oh my god if JDL made Sync for Lemmy I would buy it yesterday. I was a Sync Dev user for like 5 years, such a great app and the developer is amazing.

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        I’m 11 years into using Sync.

        My first year of college, the only smart device I had was an iPod Touch. After I found Reddit, I installed Alien Blue on the iPod as my first Reddit app experience.

        A couple years later, I bought my first real smartphone, which ran Android. And I was so keen to try to find “the Alien Blue of Android” I tried probably half a dozen Reddit apps. It didn’t take me long to recognize Sync as the uncontested best of the lot, and I’ve been using it ever since.

        Until now.

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      Considering the Reddit API changes are leaving an enormous amount of mobile dev talent flapping in the breeze, I’m really looking forward to seeing some really innovative apps in the nearish future.

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      That would be amazing. I’m sure it would be a lot of work, but I don’t think he would be starting from scratch. I would think he could use many existing components. I’m sure many people would pay for it, I know I would.

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        It definitely has bugs. I had to load this thread 8 times to get the correct comments to load. Some of this could be user error, buts it’s a free app that works pretty dang well.

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        Yeah, it’s barely working for me at all, and I’ve been trying it for at least a week now. Sometimes I’ve written out long comments only for them to just vanish forever with a little error message.

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          Same here.

          I’ve gotten in the habit of copying my comments before submitting them, just in case. Including this one.

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      There are some bugs and an advance user may not like it but for a simple lurker as myself Jeroba has been working wonders. 100% recomend

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        Are you really a lurker if you’re already commenting? (Speaking as a recovering lurker)

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        Jerboa has been working well for me so far as well but I am pretty new too. It has been somewhat easy to navigate but I am trying to learn the whole fediverse thing at the same time.

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        I used to use Relay for reddit, and jerboa feels really familiar. It’s development really picked up last release too. Still having an issue getting back to a comment context from a reply in my inbox, but I think that’s a bug from last release and there’s a pull request already.

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      Same… I’m pretty confused about some stuff but it’s close enough to reddit to where I’m kinda figuring it out

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      I assume there isn’t really any app for Lemmy on iOS? I didn’t find anything. I didn’t expect to, but still disappointing.

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    Yes! I was just reading a post from the authors of Lemmy on lemmy.ml, and noticed I was not logged in. I assume that because lemmy.ml is another instance, I can’t log in with my usual lemmy.world credentials, but since it is federated I should be able to post, correct? However, I am not sure how, and I think a lot of people would just try logging in normally, since it’s just Lemmy, right? Lemmy.ml might be safe, but I think it could be possible to confuse people into entering their password for fediverse sites on malicious instances, which steal their credentials. It’s a little bit confusing to noobs like myself to be honest.

    An app that can manage credentials and post properly across compatible instances and show informative messages to notify the user if and why they cannot post would be very useful, managing multiple accounts seamlessly even more useful!

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      Well think about it with this crude kind of inaccurate analogy.

      You have a windows laptop. Your friend has a windows laptop. When you’re logged in to your laptop you can send your friend email. And see his emails to you.

      But just because your laptop is windows and his laptop is windows doesn’t mean your windows log-in would work on his right? Lemmy works more like that. Reddit is kind of like one large windows laptop and everyone gets their own keyboard. Your log in works no matter which keyboard you use.

      You may notice that Lemmy communities have the @ symbol like an email. So tech@lemmy.world is different from tech@lemmy.ml (just like how robert@yahoo.com is not the same account as robert@gmail.com). They MAY be made by the same Robert but there’s no guarantee.

      You really just need one account. So in the communities tab from your instance (Lemmy.world) you can search for the community on the other instance (Lemmy.ml) for example tech@lemmy.ml.

      Your account let’s you post and comment on @lemmy.ml posts

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        Even when you understand all that, though, it does just feel weird and unintuitive that you have to search for the community you want to interact with from within your home instance, and can’t just directly go to that instance’s website, e.g. beehaw.org, and log in.

        Having an app (including a desktop app) to point people to that would just consolidate everything for a given user so that it’s more intuitive, and so that you can easily switch between accounts or set it up to see posts from all your accounts together, would make it a lot easier on newbies, and make navigation more convenient for everyone else as well.

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          Coming from reddit is fun app, I don’t really understand how what you’re proposing would work. You want the same functionality of having a separate account on each instance, but consolidated into one app to easy switch between accounts/instances, right?

          If we translate this use case into the existing rif app layout, the subreddit selector panel on the left would need to have like lemmy instances instead of subreddits, with communities nested under each instance.

          So you would have a different frontpage for each instance, which consisted of only the posts for communities hosted by that instance. Maybe I’m on the wrong track here, or you have a better idea of how it’d work.

          How is that better or more intuitive than just having one personal frontpage for all of your subscribed communities? That way you don’t even need to make a conscious decision to browse beehaw posts, they’re just in the same feed as everything else.

          I feel like it’s more about the way you’re thinking about posts being hosted on a particular server and what that means. In the context of Lemmy it only means something where the post you want is on an instance that’s been defederated from for whatever reason, and even then only in terms of community discovery. Otherwise it’s kinda meaningless in terms of your interaction with posts.

          Thinking of the given community as a community ‘on beehaw’ per se is only really pertinent in cases where the fact it’s on beehaw alone has some kind of impact on how you interact with it, e.g moderation style. But even in that case, moderation style could equally be an attribute you ascribe to the community itself, rather than beehaw. e.g. preferring r/games over r/gaming.

          This way it makes more sense to think of the community as a lemmy community than a beehaw one, which seems fairly intuitive to me. Plus, that way the instance is doing the link aggregation and not your phone, which would be problematic for users and for scaling the ecosystem

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      I have not seen the need to manage multiple accounts so far. I am logged into thelemmy.club but am subscribed to lemmy.world which works fine since it is federated. I am able to reply to you from thelemmy.club. Most of the content I follow is from other (non club) servers and have not had any issues interacting with people.

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        You would need a separate account to participate in instances your home instance isn’t federated with, ie anyone logged into lemmy.world would need a different account to use beehaw

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          I think this is where I lucked out when I had so many issues creating an account on lemmy.world. I ended up making an account at thelemmy.club instead and it seems I can see and respond to all content from here so far.

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      I assume that because lemmy.ml is another instance, I can’t log in with my usual lemmy.world credentials, but since it is federated I should be able to post, correct?

      I think the difference is whether you’re viewing lemmy.ml directly (as in, the URL in your browser starts with https://lemmy.ml/), or whether you’re viewing it via lemmy.world (or whichever site you have an account on).

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    I may be just a pie-in-the-sky optimist but I think the duplicate communities thing will die down eventually. Natural selection will do it’s thing and we’ll all eventually settle in specific communities on specific instances.

    Based on the nature of life itself all living things become specialized over time. This includes creatures, jobs, products, communities, etc. So what’s likely to happen is some communities will die out or be abandoned while others will thrive and yet others will simply become more specialized.

    Hypothetical example: /m/gifs on Kbin might become the place to find perfect loops and high quality/serious stuff while /m/gifs on some other instance might become the place for animated silliness.

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      I think “duplicated” communities is a problem even on a centralized service, to a lesser degree, since you can create a community with same intentions, but different names (e.g. c/video, c/videos). I’m also optimistic they will sort out with time

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        One thing I’m worried about here with the duplicated communities though is the same thing that was happening on Reddit in the last couple years, new astroturfed communities popping up with a decided slant. Like how /r/economy came out of nowhere despite /r/economics being an existing huge subreddit, and /r/economy having a noticeable conservative bent. Lemmy doesn’t seem a ton more susceptible to it than Reddit was, but discovering new popular communities does seem to be very much a desired feature here.

        I don’t think Beehaw has it figured out, but the idea of making signups more onerous definitely makes sense to limit bots, advertisers, and state actors.

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        Agree, the fragmentation of communities is a stumbling block for adoption and for the coalescing of users to solidified groups that adopt identities and cultures. This is a huge advantage when looking at centralized systems like reddit. My hope is that there will be some version of natural selection but that it occurs sooner than later

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          Im not sure what you’re saying. Personally I want to avoid one huge centralized “community” as it no longer ceases to be a community.

          It makes sense to me that different userbases have different /r/funny with different content that they find funny. Otherwise you just have one appeal to the lowest common denominator content.

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          Even on reddit their were multiple subreddits that were very similar. r/oculus r/oculusquest r/quest2 r/virualreality and many more ar and xr subbreddits I was subscribed to. Much of the same content were on all of them. As the user base here grows it won’t be an issue, some similar communities will be bigger some smaller and there’s room for everything.

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    I’m actually kind of enjoying the partitioned nature of the fed. I use the Jerboa app when on mobile to access Lemmy, and when I’m on my PC I use kbin.

    When I was on reddit, I’d switch from mobile to PC or vice versa and just see all the content I just browsed on my other device. Now it’s a fresh batch every time I make the switch (which is pretty regularly!).

    That said, I wouldn’t be opposed to a unifier. I remember back when AOL Instant Messenger and the 5 or so similar IM services were the cream of the internet, and keeping up with friends on each was a real pain in the ass. Then a program called “Trillian” came along and linked them all together with one clean interface, and it was fucking amazing. I could definitely see the fed benefiting from a similar service.

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    This is a non issue tbh.

    We will get there. I’m having a shit load of fun on here with you guys.

    The nature of this platform is so that what we need will gradually happen based on the work we put it. I’m not into tech anything so I’m just thinking here.

    I’m literally here for the journey

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      Please let me know when you have a discussion place for lemmy-ui-svelte - want to keep up on daily and try to contribute

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        Just added the Apache License.

        Goals:

        1. Better UI (I am aiming for old.reddit) for lemmy with a new design (repetitive icons, hard to distinguish comments, terrible mobile UI) and fixing common issues, like freezing, spinners loading forever, etc.
        2. Single codebase for web, native Android and iOS apps. This is possible with Svelte + Capacitor.
        3. Svelte codebase which I believe will be far easier to develop on.
        4. Rethink how communities are browsed/integrated as alluded to in this post. This is my end goal, but I need to have some discussions about what this will exactly look like.

        My current goal is to just get the site working with all/most of the existing functionality. For that there is a lot to do. Profile/settings page, comment replies, community browser/subscriptions to name a few.

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          Single codebase for web, native Android and iOS apps. This is possible with Svelte + Capacitor.

          Interesting. Is this easier to work in than React Native?

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            I am not a fan of React, so in my opinion, yes. The substantial difference here is this isn’t native, its just a webapp that looks and feels just like a native application. The nice thing here is its just vanilla JS/CSS/HTML.

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        Right now its just fetching from lemmy.world. But I have my own instance on the same server as the front end client I can point it to.

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    Commenting from the Memmy App beta for iOS.

    Still early days, but it’s doing the basics quite well. They and Mlem are hoping for a 6/30 App Store release, so interesting times ahead.

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    This may be the (realistic) “fix” to duplicate communities in multiple instances. No fix on the server end, just* a reader app that can amalgamate the feeds so it is transparent to the end user.

    * and by “just a reader” I’m naturally referring to a Herculean effort to make a simple, beautiful app that’s cross-platform capable and which a noob can navigate without having to actually understand the fediverse.

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    Since instances love to defederate so much, we need an app to connect everything together again.

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    @Lemmyin I just want that Infinity for Reddit get Lemmy and Kbin added to it.
    By far the best Reddit client. I really love the gesture navigation on it.
    There’s no other app close to it.

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      For me it was Relay. Absolutely perfect in every way, and the gesture navigation was so intuitive. Currently using jerboa for Lemmy and excited to see where it goes or what other apps become available for it

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      Agree! You will pay thesubscription after 30 June? I don’t want to because I don’t want support Reddit new policies not even with a penny. Would be for the dev, but also would be money for the Reddit’s dirty hands.

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        @solidsnake911 I’m not going to pay.

        Why pay to use a platform that’s already making money with my personal data or the data that I post on Reddit?

        That’s why paying makes no sense. Like paying for having online games on a console. I’m not into that stupid idea, that’s why I play on PC and pay for internet to my ISP.
        Paying to any console company to play online games is like paying to the mafia for “protection”.

        Same applies to Reddit.
        I’m not falling in those mafia techniques.

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      I was looking at jerboa and it called Lemmy a “federated” alternative to Reddit. What does federated mean in this context?

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        There is no central Lemmy servers. Everyone can run a Lemmy server, which is called an instance. The instances talk together and sync posts and comments between them.

        The admin of an instance (usually the owner of the server) is in total control of what goes and what does not on the instance, and which other instances to federate (sync) with.

        When you create a community, you choose an instance that the community lives on. The community is then in the hands of the admin of that instance and the mods assigned by the admin to that community.