• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      That’s certainly an interpretation. Using this logic all of NATO is pretty weak since it takes all of NATO to provide the hodgepodge of support needed to prop up Ukraine in the war.

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        @yogthos Oh… the big bad NATO. Like NATO is the one trying to take over sovereign countries by force. NATO has never invaded another country without legitimate reasoning accepted by the world community. For example, Georgie, Estonia, and Ukraine have never been invaded by NATO but they have been by Russia on a whim. So, who is the real aggressor?

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          Somebody should let Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan know that NATO doesn’t invade sovereign countries. The sheer amount of ignorance required to make this statement is absolutely stunning.

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            @yogthos It’s amazing that you completely misunderstood what I said. I said they don’t do it without reasons that are accepted by the world community. And… after they’re done, they leave. They don’t annex the land… like Russia. They’re not doing it for conquest as Russia does.

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              I don’t remember UN resolutions authorizing any of these wars. What is this world community you speak of exactly? And no, they don’t leave, US is currently occupying a chunk of Syria. US has annexed a part of Cuba where it runs a torture camp. You are either a liar or an ignoramus, either way you should be deeply ashamed of yourself.

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                @yogthos 😂 Did you see any UN vote approving the invasion of Ukraine? Also, they have not annexed any part of Syria. They are occupying it. That’s different. They will eventually leave just like they did Iraq and Afghanistan. As for Cuba, they do have Guantanamo but they also still recognize Cuba as the rightful owner of the land. They didn’t have the US version of a Russian Duma annex it. That’s the part you keep glossing over. Russia ANNEXED part of Ukraine.

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                  Unlike you trying to justify the atrocities NATO commits, I’m not justifying the invasion of Ukraine. I’m just pointing out that Russia isn’t doing anything that doesn’t follow the precedent that the US led “rules based” world order has set up. In fact, the invasion of Ukraine is directly modelled on the invasion of Yugoslavia by NATO where NATO recognized the independence of the breakaway regions and then had them invite NATO for support. US hasn’t left Iraq, and they were forced out of Afghanistan by the people of Afghanistan. They didn’t choose to leave.

                  As for Cuba, they do have Guantanamo but they also still recognize Cuba as the rightful owner of the land. They didn’t have the US version of a Russian Duma annex it. That’s the part you keep glossing over. Russia ANNEXED part of Ukraine.

                  Olympic levels of mental gymnastics here. You keep on digging there buddy.