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      11 months ago

      All those terrorist babies and terrorist hospital patients and terrorist foreign journalists

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        Subsidizing their genocide, for one. But that, unfortunately, is a widely popular position both amongst US politicians and the general population, and is unlikely to change in the near-future regardless of who is in office.

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              Yes I’m well aware of that. I’m asking whose genocide we are subsidizing. It’s clearly not the Israeli’s since we are giving money to them.

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                  Ok so a couple of things.

                  First, when we speak of genocide, generally it is with reference to the victim of the genocide. Using the Holocaust as an example, do you refer to this as the Nazi genocide or the Jewish genocide?

                  Second, we are not funding a genocide against the Palestinians. Israel is fighting Hamas, not the Palestinians. The Palestinians are unfortunate pawns being used by Hamas to shield themselves from Israel. This is an over simplification of the situation, but I don’t think it is fair to say we are funding a genocide against the Palestinians via the Israelis.

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                    The thing is, Israel didn’t appear to be trying at all to spare civilians. Maybe there is lip service offered but nothing else. IDF is killing any motherfuckers they feel like and horrific acts are being perpetuated without any repercussions - allegedly murdering every woman and child they could in a school. Murdering their own people. Maybe out of indifference or maybe out of hate, it makes no difference to the dead.

                    Hamas started this latest round but Israel has been treating Palestinians like garbage for decades. It was inevitable they would act. I don’t see Hamas as appreciably worse than the Israeli government. I have empathy for both Jews and Palestinians. The governments aren’t the same as the people, and the governments are both evil.

                    The difference is Israel is the group with all the power and military might, so they have the obligation to use that power responsibly. They aren’t. They are guaranteeing hatred persists for another couple of generations.

                    I’m sure Biden is working behind the scenes, but the public face he presents isn’t how I want my country to be seen. I’m voting for him because Trump is worse yet, but Biden has been disappointing on this crisis.

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          Hamas attacked Israel, murdered thousands of innocent people, they raped grandmother’s and children. That is what your supporting. That’s fucked up.

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            These bullshit “If you’re not for Israel, you have to be for Hamas” takes really have to stop

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            Where the fuck did I say I supported Hamas?

            Nearly 1% of the population of Gaza is fucking dead, man. In the course of under three months.