• cacheson@kbin.socialOP
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    The irony is that if they were merely antifascists that were dunking on racists and transphobes, a lot of people would genuinely appreciate them. The tankie brain-rot ruins that though.

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      “You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the fascists, not join them!”

      Although, tbf, I think I’d still be somewhat annoyed at Hexbear style discourse even if it was oriented towards a good cause. Much less annoyed, of course, but “I know you are but what am I?”, Sea Lioning, Gish Galloping, and images of pigs pooping on their own balls are not great for the tone of any community.

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        Let’s face it, these people are run-of-the mill internet trolls who are working with a politics angle. Their only cause is distruption of online communities for shits and giggles. Treat them like any other troll - block on user level, defederate on instance level.

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    Meanwhile in my Lemmy app…

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    They are all mentally unwell. So sick of seeing their shit. Literally no different than the ultra MAGA crowd just the opposite end of the spectrum. Insane people congregating sharing insane beliefs.

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      That’s the political spectrum …I used to see it as a line with left on one side and right on the other. After reading and leaving a whole bunch in my own, I now see it as a circle where we all try to basics ourselves and our ideas at the top centre, if we drift too far left or too far right, we’ll slide down and eventually meet our political opposite at the bottom where everyone acts the same anyway.

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        As a leftist, we don’t claim these people. Their views are left-coded but inherently antithetical to leftist values. Marxism-Leninism is an attempt (and quite a successful one) to appease revolutionary sentiment by embracing the aesthetics of the left but wrapping it in an authoritarian state. It’s similar to how the nazis called themselves socialists to leech off the socialist sentiment in Germany at the time. These dopes like leftist aesthetics but completely miss the mark on any leftist policy.

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    I appreciate the fuck out of Hexbear. Over the past few years I’ve seen a massive ideological shift in a bunch of communities I use to enjoy. Like feminist communities shifted from egalitarian/humanist perspectives towards more bigioted attitudes, people stopped caring about confronting their own biases, and instead try to justify them, because “the patriarchy”. I’ve encountered these people in real life. I once got in an argument with another nonbinary with them telling me “You need to understand the world sees you as a white male”.

    I see people getting called white supremace for calling out racism.

    Sorry I know this is a ramble, still processing.

    Anyways, now that I see the fingerprints of Marxism I can just call it out.

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      I think this is a side effect of social media algorithms as a whole. It pushes people into more extreme views of content/ideoligies that they already have, potentially pushing them to a point they wouldn’t have chosen.

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      If they think they’re having any real effect on anything then they majorly need to touch some grass.

      This is the reality of their “dunking on user bases”

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        There’s plenty of correct ways to criticize them, you don’t need to resort to ableist slurs my dude. We can be better than that.

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          Its to call people retards when theyre being retards. Its only an issue if they are actually cognitively challenged

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              What would you suggest instead? The word idiot? That has connotations for the intellectually disabled. Stupid? Same thing.

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                i prefer vague connotations over explicit slurs that folks actually register as kicking down on disabled folks

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              Absolutely!

              but in this case, I don’t see the use of retard offensive. If it was directed at people with actual learning disabilities, then yeah, definitely.

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                You don’t really want to encourage the idea that disabled = bad, and you can use it as an insult. It’s still racist to insult a white person with the n-word, because even if it’s not offensive to them, it carries on the cultural attitude that black people are inferior. The idea is to foster a culture that is inclusive to disabled people.

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                  Are you disabled? Since if you’re not, you’re not in a position to be lecturing if disabilities are good or bad.

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    You have to appreciate the irony of forcing people to be communist, or else. Literally doing the thing they are denying.

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      That’s not ironic. They’re authoritarians. I very much doubt that they’re against forcing people to be collectivists.

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    It’s weird how they can’t seem to realize they’re literally, exactly the same as trumpers. They’re just tanky Qanon. It’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

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    I mean, we don’t need to spread toxicity on the fediverse by making fun of folks. I thought we left that behind. If hexbear users become a problem, they can be blocked. Otherwise let folks be whatever they want. We don’t need to recreate the same shitty subs from reddit that just exist to make fun of people.

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      On the contrary, mocking tankies and fascists wherever they are found is good and necessary.

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          I won’t normally try to correct people on it, but fascists and tankies aren’t quite the same. The latter are vile authoritarians, but fascism is a more specific thing, even if it’s still kind of fuzzy and hard to nail down.

          Though if you just meant it as a joke, carry on. o7

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        Tankies and fascists must never feel welcome, and for the same reasons. Even Chompskyites, monarchists, and ancaps pale in comparison. Tankies and fascists have no interest in being part of a functioning community that isn’t run by them.

        … though I might suggest making ancaps unwelcome simply to avoid the inevitable age of consent arguments.

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    Love how hexbears are living free in your mind.

    Death to landlords