• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I am all for more public transportation in this country, but it wouldn’t help me personally. I live outside of city limits- the closest bus line is two miles away. My work is even further outside city limits, a 10-minute drive south of me down a four-lane highway, past farm fields and into an industrial park.

    There’s just no way public transportation is going to help me there. And even if I didn’t have to do it down a highway, there’s no way I’m riding a bike there in the middle of winter.

    So do please make public transport more available and expansive. Just know that it still won’t be a universal solution. Individual transport is needed by some of us.

    I plan to get an electric (not a Tesla) for my next car. I currently drive a hybrid.

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      1 year ago

      “More public transport wouldn’t help me, because there’s no transit access here” seems tautological but ok.

      Countries with similar layouts but working public transit would simply build a train line into your industrial park and place bus stops a reasonable distance away from where you live.

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          1 year ago

          You tell me; your community was likely first built by having a train line drawn out to it in the frontier era, and later had the tracks scuttled due to obsolescence and overt state support for the motor vehicle alternative.

          Rural rail has been done and is still done in pretty much every country that’s not the USA. If you’re a farmer, there’s a lot of rationale to having rail built out to whatever market terminal you sell your product at. It’s not unheard of for farmers to build out small private rail lines across the farm to transport goods, equipment, themselves, etc.

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            1 year ago

            I don’t know a country as spread out as the U.S. that has practical rail in all rural areas. Certainly not Canada or China or India.

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              1 year ago

              The U.S. The U.S. was that country. The country was built by train.

              Oh, and 80% of the population lives in cities!

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                1 year ago

                And that 80% of the population should have robust public transit.

                Then there’s the rest of us who don’t live in cities. The train never went out to farmer’s fields in the hopes of picking up people here and there who happened to live between them. That’s nonsense.

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              1 year ago

              Canada is carbrained like the US, but China and India actually have extremely profuse rail networks.

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          1 year ago

          Lots of people in fuck cars communities are black and white about it. They’re very unwilling to even discuss compromise. They’ll say the city needs to build a subway system under all the farmland.

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            1 year ago

            can you point me to that? because i spend a lot of time in these communities and have never actually seen that

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        1 year ago

        They were redesigned for cars. Mistakes of the past can be fixed.