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    If it doesn’t survive the machines, it doesn’t belong in my house

    Message sponsored by the dishwasher/washing machine/dryer gang

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      Same with toddler toys:

      “It can go in the dishwasher, the washing machine, or the garbage”.

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      Hang drying and you don’t need to iron. (And clothes hold longer and needs a few kW/h less power).

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          What? This is how most people in European cities dry their clothes and I guarantee they all have smaller houses than in American cities

          Just needs a clotheshorse which is like the size of a table

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          And infinity time.

          We were traveling in the UK and stayed with some family and we needed to do laundry pretty bad and they had a washer dryer combo machine. Obviously it was still wet afterwards, and we hung it to finish drying.

          And left two days later with damp clothes.

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          I have 3 kids and do the laundry on Wednesday and Sunday, about 3-4 loads each time. Everything gets hang-dried except towels, socks, pyjama-pants, and men’s undies, which go in one big late-night load in the dryer when the juice is cheap.

          It takes 2 small clothes horses in my laundry room. Not a huge basement.

          Only time I’m doing lots of drying is when I’m washing sheets, which is probably less often than I should.

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        Nobody has time for that lmao, it takes what 10-20 minutes to hang up a full load?

        When I can just toss everything from the washer into the dryer and hit Start in <1 minute? Lol

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                I don’t think it really matters if your shirt is wrinkled*. I used to work a suit and tie job in a past life, while the suit part would get regularly dry cleaned, the inner button down shirt and slacks would get washed and dried with the rest of the laundry and never ironed. Nobody ever said, emailed, sticky noted a damn thing that affected my career or social work-life sooo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

                *Except the following groups: Politicians, Celebrities, Rich people, Executives.

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                  I mean some people like clothes

                  I like to look sharp and dress nicely, not to advance a career, if I do it at work it’s really just for my colleagues and for the hell of rocking something with style. Outside of work too

                  I feel like creased clothed would nullify any fashion reaches whether it’s nice shoes, a peculiar and unique shirt or a cool blouse; put on a creased shirt and it makes or break the line between “a bold choice” to “ah, that man dressed like he doesn’t know what he’s doing”

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            You’re just reusing the same argument as the anti-dishwasher people

            Nothing to do with laziness and everything to do with having higher priorities that could use that 10-20 minutes on top of just plain efficiency gains

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              Dishwashers are actually greener than hand-washing. Do I have to link the TechnologyConnections video?

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                You misunderstood, I’m definitely pro-dishwasher and have seen both of TC’s dishwasher videos.

                “You’re just being lazy” is a common argument anti-dishwashers bring up along with the (Incorrect) “It’s faster to hand wash”

                However, that being said, being greener isn’t why I’m pro-dishwasher. It’s because it saves time I can use for anything else

                It’s a waste of time to hang dry, it’s a 5-10x increase over just shoving them in the dryer, hitting start and going off to do whatever. It’s simply inefficient to spend time hanging clothes to dry.

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                  Yes, but in this case there are actual measurable benefits to hang-drying besides financial cost. Unlike the dishwasher, hang drying is measurably greener. And also it tends to prolong the life of your clothes.

                  This is a case where “being lazy” has a real trade-off, like fixing yourself a meal from proper ingredients vs nuking a TV dinner.

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    This is me, the only exception is hand knitted or crocheted items. They’re literally the only things I’ll actually respect wash instructions on. If someone takes the time to make me something by hand, or if I spend the time to do it, I’ll treat it right. Otherwise, that shit is going is going into the washer with shirts, jeans, two towels, a flat sheet, a little bleach, some powder detergent, and some downy. I know you’re not supposed to downy towels, but ain’t nobody got time for separating laundry in this bish.

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      Towels honestly dry you off SO much better when they’re washed with no fabric softener. It’s worth an extra wash to do towels separately

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        Just stop using fabric softener in general. It’s basically liquid plastic coating your clothes. 🤮🤢🤮

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      That’s fair. If it’s been hand crafted with love that’s something different than, I dunno, some random sportsball shit I have from Walmart.

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        Ew, you have sportsball equipment? The gay agenda is going to need a word with you. You’re hurting our image. We abandoned respectability politics in the 2010s. You need to update your plan, or you could face serious fines and a loss of the ability of walk super quickly for no reason.

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      I don’t do bleach or fabric softener, but I will use a garment bag for a style of t-shirts that I like but that fall apart otherwise.

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      I once sent off my favourite tie that had a cool pattern on it to her dry cleaned.

      It came back with the pattern partially erased.

      A sad day for me.

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    Anything that breaks in the washing machine/dryer/dishwasher trifecta, doesn’t deserve to live in our house.

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    Do the manufacturers just do this to not be responsible if the shirt doesn’t survive the machinery?

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      It’s like dishware being not dishwasher safe

      Sometimes they didn’t want to pay for the testing and don’t want to be liable (Probably cheap product) sometimes they didn’t want to spend the extra 0.05¢/item to apply the proper coating/dyes/machine resistant features (Cheap product)

      The rest of the time, it’s truly because of “specialized” material, like wool.

      If you’re looking to buy clothing, it’s best if you simply didn’t buy anything that is “Handwash Only” (Unless it’s something like wool).

      If everybody checked and avoided buying “Handwash Only” clothing AND dishware, they would disappear off the market rather quickly (With the exception of special materials that truly can’t be made machine-safe)

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        Tbf knives will not stay sharp if you dishwash them. You just have to sharpen them more often if you do. So you’re either lazy not to hand wash them OR lazy not to sharpen them as much. Has nothing to do with how they are manufactured. Knives just don’t stay sharp in machine washing as the heat dulls it.

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          Wait… people are putting knives in the dishwasher?! The fuck? They’re like the easier thing to clean!

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            It gets worse. People will go like “this shit is dull” blame the knife and won’t even consider it needs to be sharpened (or don’t want to) chuck it or give it away and BUY NEW knives like every 1-2 years not realizing these things could last decades. All because they think they are too lazy but the whole procedure is actually more work.

            Then you have the group who just use dull knives forever and accept it because they think sharp knives are dangerous. And then not realize how much more dangerous that is to use a dull knife that will slip off of things more so than a sharp knife would.

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              I don’t know how these people function day to day…

              I actually did once know someone that I encouraged to buy a new (cheapish but decent) chef’s knife. A few months later I asked how they liked it, and they were like “oh I left it in the sink sitting in water overnight one too many times, and it developed rust spots, so I trashed it” 🤯

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            I didn’t actually know that it was bad to put knives in the dishwasher until only a couple months ago. For anyone wondering, dishwasher detergent is abrasive, and will mechanically dull blades.

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            Well yeah, so are plates but I’m not going to hand wash all of those. I can only trust my dishwasher with stuff that is easy to clean.

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              I can only trust my dishwasher with stuff that is easy to clean.

              You either need different dishwasher detergent or a new dishwasher.

              The day I have to pre-rise dishes or the dishwasher doesn’t clean dirty dishes is the day I go shopping for a new dishwasher.

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          Just like there are true exceptions for clothing there are true exceptions for dishware

          I personally just send them through the dishwasher and sharpen as needed

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      Some are damaged by washing in high heat or tumble drying them. Not like straight away but over time.

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      If I see this on something cotton or polyester, I just don’t buy it as it insinuate cheap dying and manufacturing.

      On wool, cashmere, etc. it’s a bit more reasonable

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    “Best I can do is make it quick”

    Punchline to the original Dilbert Comic (also fuck Scott Adams)

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    I don’t do anything else than laundry gauntlet.
    I once washed one piece of cloth on its own but it felt like a huuuge waste!

    Nowadays I take my chances. But I must say that my clothing doesn’t seem to take that much damage (obviously they’d live longer otherwise but I don’t want to fill a whole machine worth of water for one piece of clothing, that’s nuts!).

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      I do laundry gauntlet too but a lot of my clothes are tattered and worn. Probably because I still wear a lot of the same clothes I was wearing 10 years ago though and less because of my laundry habits. I did finally retire my oldest jeans this year but the t shirts are still in good enough shape.

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    I don’t think I’ve ever hand-washed anything. Then again, most clothes these days are build to be pretty disposable and include plastics instead of only natural fibers.

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    I try to follow the instructions so the clothes survive for longer, but with older clothes with tears and shit, anything goes