I use KDE Plasma, and much prefer the KDE color picker over the GTK one that Firefox uses, with input type=color.

I know that I can set GTK_USE_PORTAL=1 to make Firefox use the native file picker, is there a way to make it use the native color picker as well?

I know there probably isn’t a way, but I figured it’s worth a shot asking.

  • Moxvallix@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
    471·
    1 year ago

    And…? So what, if a design works, a design works. This is a colour picker.

    • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
      151·
      1 year ago

      IMHO a better design would be a mix between the two.

      The left one has much better color palettes. Bigger, with a much nicer color selection than just “neon colors” on the right one. But without a color selector/slider it’s unusable for advanced users. Should have an expandable panel with the hue sliders. And a color picker if I want to take it from somewhere else in the screen

      • SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net
        1·
        1 year ago

        I can’t check at the moment but Firefox one has the custom field, so probably you need to add a custom colour to access those inputs

    • over_clox@lemmy.world
      236·
      1 year ago

      I know. I wrote Color Painter, which also comes with its own very unique color picker.

      My design works. My design is also extremely unique. I didn’t rip off an existing design.

      • Moxvallix@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
        341·
        1 year ago

        Ok? My point is that it really doesn’t matter. A colour picker doesn’t have to be unique.

        • over_clox@lemmy.world
          233·
          1 year ago

          Unless they wanna avoid potential copyright violations…

          My Color Painter and Color Picker software are protected by basic copyright laws, and have nothing similar to common existing interfaces.

          That KDE color picker, I’m literally looking at exactly the same interface in Windows 3.11 right now. Huge ripoff, nothing original.

          • IHeartBadCode@kbin.social
            20·
            1 year ago

            Huge ripoff, nothing special

            Okay then don’t use it. The entire point of KDE is to provide a traditional desktop metaphor that windows users find friendly.

            And if you’re especially irked, KDE like most FOSS is somewhat community driven, so be the change you desire if that’s your kind of thing. Or don’t do anything but complain. You’re completely free to do whatever.

            But that said, you may perhaps be making a mountain out of a molehill, especially UI elements that if MS wanted to cite copyright, they would have done it long time ago. This has been the default color picker for KDE since the 2.x days.

            • over_clox@lemmy.world
              124·
              1 year ago

              This has also been the default color picker since Win311/Win95 days. Does this mean people want to backtrack on technology?

              • IHeartBadCode@kbin.social
                18·
                1 year ago

                If that’s what they want who am I to tell them no? The point of open software is to be what the user wants. Why is any particular opinion more correct than another within a group that prides itself on giving users choice.

                If KColorPicker isn’t someone’s cup of tea, there is nothing stopping anyone from changing that default out. The color picker that appears is a user setting.

                • over_clox@lemmy.world
                  121·
                  1 year ago

                  Its literally technology from 1993. Are their actually no new ideas since 1993 that they just keep copying the same GUI?

                  Pitiful, absolutely pitiful. Hell, even AI can do better than ancient copycat

              • Moxvallix@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
                14·
                1 year ago

                If it’s such a problem for you, and you are obviously a colour picker expert, why don’t you make KDE a new colour picker. I’m sure the community would appreciate a new and innovative colour picker, if it’s genuinely better than the Windows style one.

      • AnonTwo@kbin.social
        8·
        1 year ago

        Okay so…which of the things in the picture or discussion is color painter?

        Is it in any way related to KDE Color Picker?

        I feel like of all the things you’ve said so far, all of which have only tried to discourage the OP to get an answer, and not actually answer their question.

        • over_clox@lemmy.world
          120·
          1 year ago

          I’m calling out KDE for ripping off the Windows Color Picker. Not mad at OP directly, but still, might as well go back to Windows if that’s your preferred color picker.

          • Moxvallix@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
            20·
            1 year ago

            But why would I go to Windows, if KDE has the same colour picker? Literally an argument for me staying is that the colour picker is identical, so not worth switching for the colour picker (which I really don’t care about when it comes to choosing a desktop).

            All I wanted was to see if anyone knew of a way to allow Firefox to use my desktop environment’s colour picker. I don’t care if the design is “stolen” from Windows, and I doubt Microsoft cares either. You really have picked a very obscure, and rather stupid hill to die on.

            Sorry for being harsh, I’m just frustrated that the discussion here is about KDE’s colour picker design, and not about customising Firefox, which is what I asked about.

            • over_clox@lemmy.world
              116·
              1 year ago

              I apologize for being harsh as well, but that old Win311 style color picker came from the 16 bit days. You wanna rewrite it in 64 bit?

              • Moxvallix@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
                17·
                1 year ago

                Hang on… you don’t think they are literally the same program right?

                The KDE colour picker is a different program that just looks like the Windows one. KDE’s colour picker isn’t “16 bit”.

                • over_clox@lemmy.world
                  114·
                  1 year ago

                  No shit, M$ literally used the same color picker for 24 bit truecolor as well. It’s literally the same GUI.

                  • Moxvallix@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
                    12·
                    1 year ago

                    No… I am starting to understand why you have been saying the things you have. You are actually thinking they are the same program.

                    They very much are not. KDE wrote their own. Just happens to look the same. KDE’s uses QT, Microsoft would use Window’s native toolkit.

                    They are not the same colour picker.

            • over_clox@lemmy.world
              110·
              1 year ago

              It’s also the truth. Brutal truth no less, they ripped off the color picker from the Win311/95 era, with no concept on an updated GUI, they just carbon copied M$…

              • Nyfure@kbin.social
                11·
                1 year ago

                Feel free to submit a change if it bothers you that much…
                Wait… yes? You dont want to? You just want to complain?
                Ok then.

                • over_clox@lemmy.world
                  110·
                  1 year ago

                  I’m not going back to that year 2009 crap, “source code or it didn’t happen”.

                  Allz I know is I see with my own eyes that KDE done literally copied Win311 color picker.

          • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org
            12·
            1 year ago

            Can you imagine that someone can like some aspects of an operating system without liking the whole of it?

          • Nido@feddit.ch
            10·
            1 year ago

            Considering the History of Windwows stealing KDE Features/ Designs i bet the KDE Color Picker was there first 😜

        • over_clox@lemmy.world
          122·
          1 year ago

          It’s an experimental graphics editor I wrote from the ground up, to search and process colors by name instead of looking at a bunch of RGB/HSL numbers that make almost no sense to natural artists.

          • Neshura@bookwormstory.socialEnglish
            9·
            1 year ago

            search and process colors by name instead of looking at a bunch of RGB/HSL numbers that make almost no sense to natural artists.

            unless you tell them which company’s color codes you used to match the names to rgb values this will be more useless to artists than rgb colors without a color preview. Text based colors are purely subjective and you’ll be hard pressed to find two companies using the same name for the exact same color mix (you will find companies selling paint under the same name but it sure as hell won’t look the same). The closest you’ll get are the css default colors but that’s a pretty limited selection of colors so with your genius text input method you’d still need a couple of sliders to get the entire color spectrum.

            Your idea has merit but not for artists. Casual people would benefit a lot more from it, because they won’t have to struggle finding the correct color for what they want most of the time. But even just hobby digital artists will spend more time wrangling with your text input than they would just hand picking the rgb values, never mind professional digital artists who probably don’t even think in named colors anymore and just think of the rgb ranges they want instead.

          • Thorry84@feddit.nl
            8·
            1 year ago

            Do you have a link to the Github page? I can’t find it and think you’re full of shit

    • over_clox@lemmy.world
      135·
      1 year ago

      Isn’t the purpose of Linux to actually step away from Windows, not copy it practically verbatim from 1993?

      • andrew@lemmy.stuart.funEnglish
        22·
        1 year ago

        The purpose of Linux is to be a free and open source OS kernel on top of which free and open source software can provide whatever user experience they want to provide and users are free to pick one.

        • over_clox@lemmy.world
          124·
          1 year ago

          But they’re not free to literally copy an existing interface from a big $$$ corporation…

          Again, I use text based input as the main interface. Not RGB. Not HSL. I literally name my colors with text.

          Want human flesh, type “human flesh”, not some unintuitive #RRGGBB crap.

          • Sethayy@sh.itjust.works
            16·
            1 year ago

            I’ve read a lot of youre comments trying to understand youre meaning here, but are you trying to say you want to represent all 16 million colors of a 24 bit color?

            And also somehow in a way that not extremely subjective to the user?

            Ngl I’d love to see this as a product, and definitely keep me updated if this software ever has a usable demo

          • ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
            5·
            1 year ago

            Windows 11 Desktop is partly a copy from Linux, so why should companies be allowed but free projects not?

            They even introduced ssh into Windows preinstalled.

      • Moxvallix@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
        19·
        1 year ago

        No. The purpose of Linux is to provide a free and open source operating system, that can be customised by yourself and the community to your liking.

        I like KDE’s colour picker. It seems I would like the Windows one as well. It’s a good design. Linux doesn’t exist to be contrary, it exists to be a customisable, open experience.

      • IHeartBadCode@kbin.social
        191·
        1 year ago

        Do you actually use Linux? The purpose of FOSS is to make it whatever you want it to be. It can be a step away, a step towards, a step multiple by the square root of negative one to MS Windows. The entire point is that you get to dictate the path you want to take.