going from “i don’t listen to albums” to “maybe you don’t like music” is incredibly strange. i listen to tons of music which i love. i just don’t do albums. I buy loads of songs on bandcamp and have multiple constantly growing playlists hundreds of tracks long.
You will never hear a recorded song more clearly than vinyl
that’s just demonstrably not true. maybe on a perfectly calibrated player in a completely dust-free lab environment with no air movement on a never-played vinyl that was just pressed and has never been moved. as soon as one of those conditions fail to hold the sound is distorted. from an acoustic perspective, live music also tends to have really weird sound and it’s usually muddied by the environment.
i realize you get off on being cryptic, but i can’t accept this gatekeepy bullshit. I’m too old and neurodivergent to care about whatever profound wisdom you want me to discover. be straight with me, or shut up.
I am being clear with you, you can’t understand because you don’t like what I am saying. It’s not cryptic. It’s obvious.
Let me just start by pointing out that you came into a thread asking about your favorite album at this moment and you stated how you don’t like albums. You started with a negative response. I gave you a chance to be a part of the conversation but you went even more negative.
You like songs. You listen to them one after another. But your missing the point of what an album is to the people who make albums.
You like the pretty songs but you don’t know what it means.
The lyrics I quoted are from Kurt Cobain who famously hated poser music fans. He wanted his music listener to listen to his album but the music industry turned him into a pop star by releasing his songs as singles. He hated how people only knew Smells Like Teen Spirit or his other radio hits but didn’t know his other stuff and only ever wanted to hear one song.
i wouldn’t say “i don’t do albums” is a negative response. i even asked about it to see if it’s just me. then you start talking about formats and fidelity rather than music, which other people engaged me about.
i “get” why people like vinyl. it’s a ritual thing. i can’t do rituals due to how my brain works. i also “get” why artists make albums. it’s a way for music to tell a story, for narratives to interleave, to experiment with emotional changes. i “get” all that. i understand it. i know it. i would love to listen that way. it just doesn’t work on me. i don’t know why. i’ve tried, god knows i’ve tried.
jumping to the conclusion that i do not understand, and then reiterating that i do not instead of trying to explain it, and using unattributed quotes, is being cryptic. it is not clear.
and regarding cobain; artists know that the way people interact with their work is not up to them. throwing tantrums, accusing people of being “fake” for being… people, that’s a teenager’s way of looking at the world. it’s not enough to create something people love, they must love all of you, or it’s “fake”. this happens all the time. look att blink-182, toto, chumbawumba. fucking rick astley. the difference is what they make of it. and to be clear, i’m not being down on curt. the man was obviously going through it. i’m just saying that you’re not making the point you think you are with that.
going from “i don’t listen to albums” to “maybe you don’t like music” is incredibly strange. i listen to tons of music which i love. i just don’t do albums. I buy loads of songs on bandcamp and have multiple constantly growing playlists hundreds of tracks long.
that’s just demonstrably not true. maybe on a perfectly calibrated player in a completely dust-free lab environment with no air movement on a never-played vinyl that was just pressed and has never been moved. as soon as one of those conditions fail to hold the sound is distorted. from an acoustic perspective, live music also tends to have really weird sound and it’s usually muddied by the environment.
You like songs. You don’t like music.
It’s what the part in that one song means when he’s singing
what a weird thing to say. please explain.
You will just have to discover it yourself.
i realize you get off on being cryptic, but i can’t accept this gatekeepy bullshit. I’m too old and neurodivergent to care about whatever profound wisdom you want me to discover. be straight with me, or shut up.
I am being clear with you, you can’t understand because you don’t like what I am saying. It’s not cryptic. It’s obvious.
Let me just start by pointing out that you came into a thread asking about your favorite album at this moment and you stated how you don’t like albums. You started with a negative response. I gave you a chance to be a part of the conversation but you went even more negative.
You like songs. You listen to them one after another. But your missing the point of what an album is to the people who make albums.
You like the pretty songs but you don’t know what it means.
The lyrics I quoted are from Kurt Cobain who famously hated poser music fans. He wanted his music listener to listen to his album but the music industry turned him into a pop star by releasing his songs as singles. He hated how people only knew Smells Like Teen Spirit or his other radio hits but didn’t know his other stuff and only ever wanted to hear one song.
i wouldn’t say “i don’t do albums” is a negative response. i even asked about it to see if it’s just me. then you start talking about formats and fidelity rather than music, which other people engaged me about.
i “get” why people like vinyl. it’s a ritual thing. i can’t do rituals due to how my brain works. i also “get” why artists make albums. it’s a way for music to tell a story, for narratives to interleave, to experiment with emotional changes. i “get” all that. i understand it. i know it. i would love to listen that way. it just doesn’t work on me. i don’t know why. i’ve tried, god knows i’ve tried.
jumping to the conclusion that i do not understand, and then reiterating that i do not instead of trying to explain it, and using unattributed quotes, is being cryptic. it is not clear.
and regarding cobain; artists know that the way people interact with their work is not up to them. throwing tantrums, accusing people of being “fake” for being… people, that’s a teenager’s way of looking at the world. it’s not enough to create something people love, they must love all of you, or it’s “fake”. this happens all the time. look att blink-182, toto, chumbawumba. fucking rick astley. the difference is what they make of it. and to be clear, i’m not being down on curt. the man was obviously going through it. i’m just saying that you’re not making the point you think you are with that.