

As we do not share values, let’s disuss technicalities instead:
- what to do with immigrants, of whom we do not know the state of origin?
- what to do with immigrants where the state of origin does not want to take them back?
Then everybody is like “Muh, but Dublin rules”. Yeah right, because those will work out perfectly for Europe, when all the southern states are left alone with all the immigrants.
In consequence, every “we want immigration to go down” comes down to using brutal violence against those immigrants. And now we’re back to square one: questions about human rights ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Or, you know, as we talk democracy, talk to and convince other people?