The animal abuse alleged at the time was that there was supposedly no healthy vegan cat food.

While the section of the rules was the same (violent content), animal abuse was a separate sentence, not the one about visual depictions:

No visual content depicting executions, murder, suicide, dismemberment, visible innards, excessive gore, or charred bodies. No content depicting, promoting or enabling animal abuse. No erotic or otherwise suggestive media or text content featuring depictions of rape, sexual assault, or non-consensual violence. All other violent content should be tagged NSFW.

This is the exact same paragraph we have today and we had before these changes.

If there was no healthy vegan cat food then this would be considered content enabling animal abuse.

The ToS had no rules on misinformation at the time.

it still had rules about animal abuse, which this misinformation, had it actually been misinformation, would have lead to. while the removal reason could have been more clear, the justification was still covered by our ToS.

new rules created to back their talking points

the additional rules provided more clarification on what we intend to achieve with them, but they would not be required. based on what we know today the removal was neither justified by the original ToS nor by the updated ones.

I never said that it only requires harm down the road.

Cutting body parts off or even just cutting them without good medical reason (e.g. risk of death without amputation) is of course also animal abuse.

For hiding pain, you’re attacking a strawman, because I already addressed that in my previous comment.

we do not consider feeding a cat vegan food as animal abuse, provided there are no health issues arising from this.

most of the research i’ve looked at seems to point out that there are various pitfalls, e.g. just feeding a cat vegetables will result in malnutrition. having synthetic additives for this can be one way to address that problem. just because something is sold as vegan cat food that doesn’t necessarily imply that it’s healthy for the cat, as some of the articles were pointing out that some of the cheaper ones were lacking the right ingredients.

as an example, “my cat now only gets potatoes and apples and nothing else” would be considered animal abuse.

additionally, if moderators were to remove arguments pointing out the risks of e.g. missing nutrients in a civil discussion and leaving the other side that just argues “vegan cat food works” without any arguments as is then we would also consider this animal abuse.

in this specific incident the conversation was certainly not civil, which is unfortunate, as this situation would likely have gone a very different way if it was.

either you don’t have “show bot accounts” disabled in your profile or you have discovered a lemmy bug. this account is marked as bot also when viewed from slrpnk.net. you most likely do not have show bot accounts disabled.

you may have been thinking of https://poliverso.org/objects/0477a01e-1166-c773-5a67-70e129601762, which was neither lemmy devs, mastodon devs nor lemmy.world admins

the bot has been marked as bot since the very beginning and is also clearly marked as bot in the screenshot as @blackn1ght@feddit.uk already mentioned.

i also just checked on db0 in case there was some federation issue that would have the account not be marked as bot over there and it’s also clearly marked as bot when viewed on db0.

the bot has been marked as bot since the very beginning and is also clearly marked as bot in the screenshot, so your comment does not apply here.

that looks like photon, which lemdro.id is using as default interface.

there has been a feature request to add language selection to it, but it doesn’t seem to have been picked up yet: https://github.com/Xyphyn/photon/issues/182

unfortunately lemmy still doesn’t provide a great user experience today for posting content in other languages. many users don’t realize that they should be setting the languages they want to see in their profile, so your audience with a properly language-tagged post will probably be substantially smaller than the number of people who could understand your post. additionally, many third party apps/interfaces and even the official mobile app don’t support language selection yet when posting.

i recommend using https://l.lemdro.id/ for posting with the appropriate language tag, which is the official standard lemmy web interface. for comments it doesn’t matter that much imo.

fyi @Tayemna_Kimnata@lemdro.id

no, the join was bad

we were only counting users active in the last 6 months (based on lemmys active user stats) for this calculation. with the update to lemmy 0.19 back in march 2FA for all existing users was reset, so all users that had 2fa set up before and never reactivated it wouldn’t count towards this, nor would users that weren’t active at all since then.

2FA has been restored for all LW users that had it enabled before and didn’t reactivate it on their own since.

There will be an announcement posted later on explaining what happened.

edit: announcement is out: https://lemmy.world/post/18503967

2FA has been restored for all LW users that had it enabled before and didn’t reactivate it on their own since.

There will be an announcement posted later on explaining what happened.

edit: announcement is out: https://lemmy.world/post/18503967

this is a separate issue unrelated to the 0.19 update.

this was not a Lemmy bug.

This was unfortunately an error on our end.

Please bear with us while we work on resolving this situation.

Hi,

this was unfortunately an error on our end.

Please bear with us while we work on resolving this situation.

Us not upgrading has nothing to do with making a point.

We’re aiming to run a stable instance, which can come at the cost of delayed updates.

We didn’t update to 0.19.4, and a few weeks later 0.19.5 was released with a number of critical bugfixes.

0.19.6 will have several more fixes for issues introduced in 0.19.4+, such as a fix for remote moderators updating local communities, allowing admins to filter modlog entries by moderator, as well as some performance issues reported by other instances.

We usually wait for other instances to run the latest version for some time to allow bug reports to surface before we update ourselves.

What do you do in your day to day life?

I work in IT and do a lot of IT stuff as hobby as well.

How did you become a admin?

I applied. There were some awful things happening that needed faster response times and I’m often able to respond quickly throughout the day.

Where you an admin somewhere else and just moved on over or something?

I did not stop any activities to “move on”.

What if you can say and ill understand if you can’t about other admins or mods that bother you or are trouble for you?

Most admins get along fairly well. It’s important to understand the authority boundary of instances and that different instances have different rules, so content in remote communities may not always align with the rules on the local instance, but that’s typically something that just needs to be taken care of locally and wouldn’t be something to cause grief. At the same time there are instances with zero moderation or dedicated free speech instances, which tend to attract the worst people, but for those there’s typically not any communication anyway.

For mods, all I can say is that mods are just people like everyone else, so you’ll find some people better suited for the role and others not doing it that well. It’s also a role that many people don’t even want to have, which unfortunately means that there are frequently unmoderated communities, either because the previous moderator is no longer active or just isn’t responding to reports. While support of moderation capabilities in clients/apps is growing, there are still various issues with this in many clients, and there are still some other technical challenges like moderators on instances other than the community instance not reliably receiving reports.

I’m a member of the Lemmy.World admin team.

Also, anyone can look at the moderation log at https://lemmy.world/modlog