See the post on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/provisionalidea.bsky.social/post/3lhujtm2qkc2i
According to many comments, the US government DOES use SQL, and Musk is not understanding much what’s going on.
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Someone needs to explain to Musk how to debug with the JSON so that the ipv6 GUI does not overflow into the git API front-end
That man will be doing to same thing to important shit right now.
Sounds like he got confused looking at a view of a join.
If SSN based fraud is the program then let’s establish an actual federal identification number. Even the Social Services bureau tried to get everyone to not use it as the end all source of truth. They only created it for social security benefits, literally only that purpose.
He got community-noted for being wrong. Per usual, it’s only a matter of time before he deletes his post.
More likely, he’ll delete the community note
More likely, he’ll delete the database.
Shit, I’d love for him to delete the twitter databases
It’s hard to figure out what he’s talking about , when he says the “whole social security database”. Like in which tables are they duplicated? Does it mean the entire row is duplicated or just the SSN, it might make sense to be duplicated depending on the schema. Is it an append only db, so there might be updated columns on the same ssn and you need to filter by the latest update timestamp? Who knows.
But also, saying that there’s a “social security database” and then following that up by the govt “doesn’t use SQL” so… the db is actually just a spreadsheet? A .txt file? The SSNs are just written down in someone’s notebook? Lol
SSNs are reused. Someone dies and their number gets reassigned. The database could easily be keeping track of all previous assignments for any given SSN.
Remember, SSNs are designed for social security and nothing else. They got picked up as a unique ID by private interests as a hack. They were never supposed to be as widespread in use as they are. The federal government using it this way is the specific, designed use case.
Yep, and any attempt to replace them with a purpose designed government ID has gotten conspiracy nuts to shut it down
It’s LotusNotes all the way down
Or mongoDB 🙄
Probably something bespoke/legacy.
https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1889062581848944961
thought the replies would be better. Some people deducted that it uses plain text.
Of course. Everyone who’s ever used a DB knows it’s BS. As long as the data is structured - which it a) is because he was able to make assertions about it and b) fucking Excel files are enough - it CAN be imported and SQL’d on. Even Excel has built in support for fuck’s sake, not to mention Python and PowerQuery.
The dude is a self-certified moron - he probably struggles with the concept of PKI, too.
Ok genuine question, what is the difference between a SQL database and a simple Excel spreadsheet?
The excel file contains the data. It’s equivalent to the database.
The excel program is how you interact with the data. SQL is how you interact with databases.
Doesn’t matter how the data is structured inside the database. You can ask in the SQL language and you will receive an SQL answer.
People yell at you if you use an excel spreadsheet as a database
He used to be regarded as tony stark. Nah he is Justin Hammer. Steals ideas implements them shit and has no idea about anything
I get your point but I disagree. I think both Tony Stark and Justin Hammer are more competent than Elon.
Hammer was no where near as good as Tony but he did make some good stuff.
I would say he’s more like Obadiah Stane, an opportunist taking credit for others work.
True. Atleast Hammer knew his weapons and could sell them alone
He is like tony stark in a timeline where Tony stark decided to join the terrorists instead of building the suit to escape. Oh and in this timeline Tony Starks brain has been rotted away by ketamine
Yeah. That is Hammer
“Our databases only store in RAM because I AM THE ELECTRICITY BATTERY MASTER”
You save quite a lot of time when working on a database if it’s stored in RAM compared to tape, so it does make sense to use that technology
Yeah in memory databases can be super fast.
till the power goes out
It in Elon’s case, catches fire and locks you in
Then you lose your database quickly, so it’s still fast
My use case is primarily real time data capture - raw log is written to disk and can be recovered from, although at that point we’d have fallen back on the secondary as primary would now be suspect.
At which point you have to slurp down a few hundred terabytes from the other datacenters when the power turns back on.
This is why Google datacenter managers hesitate to turn off the power even when an employee is in the process of getting electrocuted.
You have to link a source for something that offhandedly horrific
Sadly I cannot, since the source is an ex-Googler I know in person who was there personally. While I fully believe the story, I’m just some rando on the Internet, so you’re welcome to take it with the appropriate pile of salt.
Thank you for the honesty, I do believe you fwiw, it’s in line with general business practices
Whenever Elon speaks of programming, he just spouts the most delusional Point-Haired Boss bullshit imaginable. Truly, he has been promoted to the level of his incompetence.
(It is also highly ironic considering the Dilbert creator’s politics.)
Musk seems to think Musk is a tech genius, but really he was just born into money and used it to buy a bunch of companies. In fairness he was able to recognise which companies to buy, doesn’t mean he knows anything about databases though.
In fairness he was able to recognise which companies to buy
I think this is just survivorship bias. There are millions of wealthy individuals investing in companies every single day. Occasionally these gambles pay off and make people extremely wealthy.
Most of the time the people who succeed just spend their incredibe wealth and live a quiet happy life.
But there are others who crave attention. These individuals bully their way into prestigious positions and pretend that they’re leading the company.
Elon is that kind of person. He started wealthy, bet his money on companies that succeeded. Then took the CEO role so he would get credit for the companys’ successes.
If ever people dare stop paying attention to him he’ll do something drastic to recapture the spotlight on.
He’s the kind of person who will stand on stage and do a nazi salute just because he wants you to look at him.
It’s easy to gamble if money isn’t yours. If your day to day survival depends on every dollar, then you don’t have the freedom to dick around with investments.
It’s easy to gamble if money isn’t yours.
To my knowledge Musk is gambling with his own money, not hedge fund capital or something.
If your day to day survival depends on every dollar, then you don’t have the freedom to dick around with investments.
But, yes, this is correct. If you’re extremely wealthy then you can keep gambling. If you fail you still have a million other chances. So you’re kind of guaranteed to succeed eventually.
Whereas the common person has one chance. If they fail that’s it.
To my knowledge Musk is gambling with his own money, not hedge fund capital or something.
Well, he had to get financing from multiple banks to purchase Twitter
He also apparently watched a lot of SeaQuest DSV, and is trying to make it a reality. Hyperloop: SeaQuest. Electric cars: SeaQuest. Big car dashboard screens: SeaQuest. Magic Space Science: SeaQuest. CyberTruck…Apple Mouse ADB gen 1-ish wrapped in aluminum foil. I guess what I find most fascinating is that I have similar mental maladies to him, but I learned instead of just being perpetually dumb. It is actually disappointing that he chose to not learn and just ride the walrus instead. No idea why anyone worships him.
Yeah just imagine if his takeaway from getting into cyberpunk had been user serviceable disability aids that are aesthetically cool.
Like i get being into the aesthetics of fiction. I love me some elfcore shit and a variety of sci-fi aesthetics. But man you gotta think about practicality
OT: You reminded me that i never watched seaquest more than a few episodes and i will have to do that now. does it still hold up for someone who loved TNG and Voyager?
The worst kind of stupid doesn’t need to learn about databases because it’s just common sense.
As someone who does systems administration which includes numerous government owned database servers, this is news to me.
