And that’s that… I was building up momentum at home to just move to proton mail. Now? Now I got no choice but to figure out another way to self host my own email somehow. That’s an f-ing PITA.

I think people are taking this stuff too personally - between zuck and these other tech ceos caving to the right wing social politics.

Fact is trump won the election, and hes the dictator of the usa now. He has legal immunity and the ability to kill anyone he wants officially, as well as full party control of all 3 branches of govt and the governers. He could scrap the constitution if he wanted to, all hed have to do is privately threaten to assasinate anyone that doesnt go along with his plans.

A private conversation has likely happened with these CEOs that effectively went “you need to help us maintain control of the govt or were going to take measures against you.”

Its nothing personal, for all we know their lives are literally on the line.

For all the talk abt small govt. The republicans have made the usa the most powerful federal govt of any western nation.

Wait, so his solution to abuse in big tech is…hiring someone who formerly worked in big tech…? Okay…

I am a little confused by this because I think they’re kind of technically right?

Democrat corporate interest will absolutely keep them from going after big tech. Maybe they think and ponder about some antitrust stuff, to save face, but it comes to nothing. Any significant change we’ve had recently has come from legislation in the EU.

Republicans are absolutely more likely to go after big tech than Democrats. But it’s not because they’re altruistic or down to help the scrappy little guy. They’re petty. They hold grudges. They’re still mad tech companies clamped down on them over Covid. But, they haven’t been bribed yet, but once they are, this goes away.

That’s why all these contributions are coming into the inauguration fund. There’s more to come.

But that only works on the Republicans who haven’t drunk the Koolaid, and there are more and more Republican politicians who drink as much Koolaid as they possibly can. They’re not the classic grifters taking advantage of their constituents, they’re diehard believers, and that’s way scarier. They’re the most likely to retaliate against big tech.

I guess the “Trump supports the little guy,” take is bad, but the “Republicans are more likely to hurt big tech,” is not. Never underestimate pettiness.

This is def not what going full MAGA looks like, lmao. This tame AF.

Oh my God. I went directly to the Reddit thread. Why is the Reddit UI so bad? How can people use that?

Wait I’m confused why this is him going full MAGA?

I legitimately don’t want the Republicans in charge of anything unless they drastically change their policies, but this actually seems like a pretty decent pick considering the absolute trash that trump has nominated so far?

If she is actually trying to break up these companies that’s generally good right? We’ve been wanting to break monopolies for a while.

If Republicans go so far right that they swing back around to the left I’d be fine with that lol

I’m not voting because of the letter next to their name, I’m voting because of policies. If someone wants to provide universal health care, protect the environment, break up monopolies, stop price gouging, stop hating gay and trans people for no reason, etc. I will vote for them. And yes I understand that the republican party as it is is the least likely group of people to ever do that. But the democrats didn’t do it either they just pay it lip service when they want votes.

Vote for actual policies you want, not because someone pretends they’re a D or an R.

Here’s what he said in Reddit

Source: https://snoo.habedieeh.re/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i1zjgn/comment/m7ahrlm/

Andy here, since it’s my original post that’s being reposted here, let me comment further.

My post is talking about Gail Slater, who is by all measures, actually a good pick, with a solid track record of being on the right side of the antitrust issue. Yes, she happens to be nominated by Trump, but her record speaks for itself.

This is not going to be a popular opinion, but on the specific issue of antitrust, Democrats fell short. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation. Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote. In the aftermath of this failure, great people like former Democratic rep David Cicilline left congress, leaving few strong voices for antitrust left in the Democratic party. In the meantime, at a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance.

By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand. And that’s a missed opportunity for Dems, because by and large, support for cracking down on corporate monopolies is popular on both sides of the political spectrum. Unfortunately, corporate capture of Dems is real and in the end money won. It is hard to see how this changes, and Republicans are likely to lead the antitrust charge in the coming years.

From that perspective, and going back to my original post, Gail is a great pick. One should not equate our support of Gail for Proton not being neutral anymore. We continue to call out bad behavior from both sides, whether it’s Dems or Republicans, on our core issues. Just a few weeks ago, we were called out for being in bed with Soros because we gave money to too many “liberal” organizations: https://proton.me/blog/2024-lifetime-fundraiser-results No, the Proton Foundation isn’t the new Soros either (even if we may coincidentally fund some of the same things sometimes). We simply stick with our strongly held core believes, and leave politics out of it, because the issues we care about, should be apolitical.

UPDATE: I posted another comment further below in response to a user, but I’ll reproduce it here for completeness:

I don’t really want to wade further into what is obviously a very polarizing political topic, but since you are asking for some thoughts, I can share.

We have been fighting big corporate interests since the very beginning. People have short memories, so few remember that in 2019 and 2020, we were working with congressional Democrats on this issue. We’re even cited a dozen times in the report, which by the way, was partially authored by Lina Khan, who at that time worked with Ciciline. This is the report here: https://proton.me/blog/congress-antitrust-report

The American Innovation and Choice Online Act (AICOA) was also mentioned. Guess what, we supported that too: https://proton.me/blog/congress-stand-up-to-big-tech More than with blog posts, I personally was on Capitol Hill trying to convince senators who were on the fence, on both the Democratic and Republican side. The votes where there, but in 2022, Democrats controlled the Senate, and ultimately Sen. Schumer decided what gets to be voted on, and as we know, AICOA was not advanced.

Epic vs Apple was also mentioned. Well, we supported that one too. In fact, we were one of the founding companies of the Coalition for App Fairness, along with, yes, Epic: https://proton.me/blog/coalition-for-app-fairness

The point I am trying to make is, in the past 10 years, our position on corporate monopolies has not moved. But US politics has shifted, and the parties themselves have moved. We’re huge supporters of Lina Khan and her work. But you know who else agrees with Lina Khan on Big Tech? Actually, JD Vance, as he’s publicly stated: https://fortune.com/2024/08/11/jd-vance-5000-child-tax-credit-support-ftc-lina-khan-tech-regulation/ Can you imagine the Republican Vice Presidents of the past taking this position?

It is not a bad thing that Republicans have moved so far on this issue, and are now in a position to go even further than Democrats have managed in the past four years. It’s a good thing, and something that should be welcomed irrespective of your political leanings. Ultimately, we will judge actions, but for now, I am supportive of Gail Slater, just as I was supportive of Lina Khan. And honestly, it should not matter that one is a Republican, and the other is a Democrat.

Wow, lots of people on Lemmy just look at screenshots of text and dont read anything anymore.

I dont think he said anything controversial. Read what he wrote.

He’s not supporting Trump or the Republican party in general. He is calling them out for selecting someone good on antitrust. That’s not controversial.

And… now I have to get out of Proton. Not USA citizen, just a leftist from South America, but not gonna accept fascism in any country, neither will I support enablers of it.

Fucking hell. I just signed up for Proton last week. Why do these “alternative” companies always end up being run by techbro dumpster fires like their mainstream counterparts?

I was just permabanned for making this comment.

Reddit is in full censorship mode over this. Oh well not the first time, certainly not the last.

Shit, I was literally about to open a Proton account as part of my degoogling this weekend.

Ok, new plan. Sigh.

Using language like “the tables have completely turned is unforgivable”.

He needs to go, or we all leave the platform.

cancelled today. I have a few months to find alternatives. I’ve been a paying customer for years. Proton has always been a bit buggy but it was worth it I thought. bowing down to tRump is a deal breaker.