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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldOP
    28·
    3 months ago

    Even setting ethics aside, I can’t believe the Biden admin trusts Bibi anymore. He will do absolutely anything as long as it helps him cling to power, including going back on assurances, blindsiding anyone, and stabbing them in the back. He will coo Biden one day and endorse Trump the next, or vice versa. As long as it helps him.

    I don’t understand how Israelis keep voting him in either.

    And do Republicans really support him so much these days? Why? I don’t see how he aligns with the MAGA movement, why these candidates need to please him so desperately. Same with Israel friendly Democrats?

    • homura1650@lemm.ee
      19·
      3 months ago

      I don’t understand how Israelis keep voting him in either.

      They aren’t exactly voting him in. Israel operates under a parliamentary system, not a presidential one.

      Between 2018 and 2022, Israel had 5 elections because they were unable to form a government. No political party held an outright majority of parliament, so to form a government, they needed to form a coalition between multiple parties. Historically, this had gone fine, but during this period the more liberal parties adopted an “anyone but Bibi” stance, and refused to join in a coalition led by Netanyahu. Similarly, Netenyahu’s party, Likud, representing about 25% of parliament, dug in and refused to remove Netenyahu from being party leader, and the other conservative parties joined in and refused to join a non Netenyahu coalition. With the Arab parties forming a third wing, neither side was able to get to 50% to form a government.

      Ultimately, Likud and the conservative parties ended up winning this fight, but only by joining with far right parties that were previously to extreme for Israeli politics.

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldOP
        1·
        3 months ago

        But what about in the US?

        I am in the US south, I have some super religious family, and more liberal family. And I don’t even know people that are like “Yeah, we’re all for Bibi!”

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
      112·
      3 months ago

      The questions you have, the things you can’t believe, and the things you don’t understand are answered early in your own comment:

      setting ethics aside

  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
    6·
    3 months ago

    He doesn’t want the hostages back. He wants an excuse to keep fighting. It’s really as simple as that.

    Peace will not happen until the US withdraws all military aid from Isreal and tells them they can only have it back when they agree a deal.

  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
    72·
    3 months ago

    Netanyahu, who recently toughened his demands and presented new conditions for a hostage and ceasefire deal, sent the delegation only to create an appearance of negotiations

    In other news, water makes things wet and clear skies are blue.

    Israel: escalates the fuck out of things unilaterally

    Secretary of Hasbara Blinken: “All parties must stop taking escalatory actions” 🤦

    Netanyahu decided he doesn’t want to move forward with the deal regardless of the impression he gave Biden during his visit to the Oval Office 10 days ago, Israeli officials say.

    Again as predictable as the sunrise 🙄

    director of Shin Bet confronted Netanyahu and told him that if he wants to back away from the Israeli proposal for a hostage and ceasefire deal, he should just say it.

    Netanyahu replied by scolding the Israeli security and intelligence chiefs, calling them “weaklings” and accusing them of working for Hamas

    Of course he did 🤦

    The Israeli Prime Minister’s office didn’t deny the reports about Netanyahu’s harsh words in the meeting but claimed the prime minister is not obstructing or preventing a deal.

    Sinwar is the obstacle to the agreement and not the Prime Minister who is willing to go a long, long way to release our hostages who are dear to him

    We rate this statement 5 Pinocchios, each with their pants on fire and their fingers crossed behind their backs.

  • fukhueson@lemmy.world
    42·
    3 months ago

    Biden told Netanyahu he must stop escalating tensions in the region and move immediately toward a deal.

    My hope here is that ultimately no one wants a bigger war and that Netanyahu can take the assassination as a win however he needs. Hostages need to come home.

    https://www.csis.org/analysis/ismail-haniyehs-assassination-escalation-or-ramp

    However, in the long term, Haniyeh’s assassination and the killing of other senior Hamas leaders could serve as a path for Israel to reduce its military operations in Gaza. In the aftermath of Hamas’s attack on October 7, Israeli leadership laid out several objectives, including the destruction of Hamas. “If you want peace, destroy Hamas. If you want security, destroy Hamas. If you want a future for Israel, the Palestinians, the Middle East, destroy Hamas,” Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared. As many analysts have noted and as the first 10 months of fighting have demonstrated, it is impossible for Israel to root out every Hamas fighter and untangle the group from its deeply embedded social, religious, and educational networks across Gaza. Instead, the killing of senior Hamas leaders could serve as an alternative form of success that enables Netanyahu and the Israeli government to claim victory and reduce its military operations in Gaza. The assassinations of Haniyeh and Deif make this path appear increasingly credible. As journalist Oz Katerji put it, “Israel is now just one Sinwar assassination away from being able to declare a ‘victory’ over Hamas in Gaza.”