Amazon is seeing some employees quit instead of moving to a new state as part of relocation mandate::As Amazon tries to get employees back to the office, some staffers are being told to relocate to hubs in different states if they want to keep their jobs
This is why they did it. It’s a great way to reduce headcount without paying severence.
Forced relocation of more than 20 miles or so (some reasonable amount that doesn’t require a move) should not allow a company to get out of severance. That should be illegal.
In many countries it is classed as constructive dismissal.
It’s not exactly illegal but it is considered constructive dismissal which at least qualifies you for unemployment.
Am Amazon employee (programmer) and can confirm. The shenanigans being pulled right now are absolutely bullshit and as somebody who’s been at the company for a long time and has generally enjoyed the fast paced, high pressure atmosphere I’m real close to saying “fuck you” to some of my favorite people.
Note, my experience is probably far from the norm, but my org has nothing but wonderful individuals and they’ve fought really hard to keep the flexibility we’ve had since long before covid.
Fuck you Andy Jassy. We all despise you.
This is one way to reduce staff without having to fire or pay severance.
Had a job that could be done remotely. New VP wanted all of his people in one place that was across the country. Two people out of about twenty went. One was promised a promotion and the other was close to retirement.
Guys, you realize that this is already factored into the move right? You think the team was just shocked that most of the work force didn’t leave? 🤦♂️
Exactly. It exposes the bias in the headline wording designed to trigger a reaction because this is Amazon, but companies move all the time, and a percentage of the workforce will always prefer not uprooting themselves, no matter how good or bad their employer.
How is this even legal. Isn’t this considered workplace bullying?
It’s constructive dismissal.
Sorry guys, we are moving your position to Antarctica. Can’t come? Oh well I guess you get no severance.
Please explain what ypu think “workplace bullying” is here. While I think it’s stupid, in at will states, Amazon’s terms of employment can be whatever Amazon wants as long as they comply with federal and state laws. It’s not illegal to tell you your job is moving. It’s just a shitty thing to do to your employees. There’s not bullying here. It’s just terms of employment.
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I mean I don’t like capitalism, but this is just capitalism. I appreciate that there is emotion in it, but it’s not as personal as bullying is and I think you are misusing the term bullying altogether. Bullying is a personal attack, this isn’t personal and doesn’t impact an individual in the same way bullying does.
Doesn’t make it right, but this is not bullying. Also, bullying isn’t illegal in any context. You’d have to argue for a hostile work environment and saying your job moved isn’t a hostile work environment.
I’ll agree that bullying is probably the wrong term.
Where I’m from you can’t just force people to change work location. If they want to move the company they can, but it has to be within x km of the preclvious building or get agreement from a certain percentage of employees. Otherwise it counts as a collective firing of the workforce.
Politicians should act on this stuff tbh.
huuuh, movve or lost your job.
It is suprised to see many people want to lost their job instead of move.
Kid these day are so lazy.
You’re trying too hard
