• MyFairJulia@lemmy.world
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    He’s right. I kept the wound open and completely bled out. Lost all of my blood. But it’s worth it because i didn’t get Tetanus.

    Did you know you can stop rabies by having someone chop your head off?

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      Did you know you can stop rabies by having someone chop your head off?

      That’s probably the preferred treatment over dying of rabies induced violent psychosis.

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        I wonder what it’s like to be in a rabies induced violent psychosis. Also why it’s like while you’re still somewhat sane, but fear water.

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          You get two in the arm, and one or two in the ass. Then a fifth later iirc. We had to get our rabies vaccines about a decade ago. A decent number, but none in the stomach.

          Nice thing is, for the next five years, you are almost immune, and only need a booster if bitten again.

          I’d always get the booster though. Rabies ain’t worth gambling on.

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          According to the CDC, it’s four doses, preferably in the arm, over a two week period. I think I remember reading about someone who worked at a rescue or rehab that had to get several shots in the shin, around the bite site, but I don’t remember why.

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            Four~five shots is just immunization, there’s also two shots of immunoglobulin… That one is usually in the affected area if it is known, otherwise it’s in the bottocks. And also probably tetanus shot if you’re not up to date…

            Source, had a bat in my house a few years ago… Good times!

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              Yikes! I had no idea about the immunoglobulin. It’s better than the alternative, but I hope you never have to go through that again.

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                I would rather it not happen again, but if I ever had a doubt I’d do it again in a heartbeat! Not a pleasant experience, but I’m not gonna lie it’s a great story to recount at parties!

                What I found really crazy is thinking of the anxiety it would have caused us if we had been south of the border (my partner is from the US). Even the co-pay might have been thousands of dollars and, being pretty broke at the time (they were a student and I had lost my job to COVID), we might have thought twice about getting treatment. Out of pocket, being that I no longer had insurance, it would have been probably tens of thousands for the two of us.

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          I believe that only works if you manage to catch it extremely early. Once it advances past a certain point, they don’t have a treatment to my knowledge (though I’d be happy to hear I’m out of date on that…).

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            If you get bitten by a rabid animal and go get the shots immediately after your chance of actually dying from rabies is very, very low. The studies I know claim it’s very close to 100% effective, which is understandable because of the very long incubation period rabies has, if you have antibodies it doesn’t stand a chance.

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            There is the Milwaukee protocol, but that is almost never successful, usually results in brain damage, and has only been used a handful of times. Also it’s banned in many locations from the inherent risk and lack of evidence for it working at all.

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    All you have to do is tell the tetanus “I do not consent,” and by law, it cannot infect you.

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        I can imagine the guy just pumping out his own blood like crazy laughing hysterically “You can’t poison me you fools!”

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      I mean, it makes some sense if you get bitten by a snake, since its poison is not literally everywhere around you (hence why in older time they try to suck it out as much as possible). But the problem for viruses is that as soon as you stop gushing out blood, the bacteria/viruses nearby the wound will try to enter the bloodstream anyway

      edit: or the fact that the veins are a one way, therefore if the virus is already inside, and you let blood out, you let out the blood which is clean. Or the fact that once inside, the virus might already be infecting cells and therefore is out of the bloodstream. or…

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      Valid conclusion, I’m cancelling my health insurance rn. More money for scratchers, hell yeah!

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      Cos not every attack comes from a bleeding injury. Joking of course. This guy is nuts.

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    Tetanus is fucking terrifying. I’m happy to have chemicals to protect me from that.

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    They’re not entirely wrong, which is frustrating.

    Tetanus is an anaerobic bacteria which means exposure to air will kill it. If a cut is bleeding that means it’s at least partially exposed and may prevent tetanus. The reason people tend to get tetanus infections from puncture wounds is because the wound heals up and seals out the air.

    Also, letting a cut bleed for a bit is one way of flushing any foreign material from the wound, which can help. But you still need antibiotics and a bandage to reduce the risk of infection.

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      It’s like only doing the first step of CPR.

      A: “You got to lay them on their back.”

      B: “And then?”

      A: “No that’s it.”

      B: “Isn’t there chest compressions or something involved?”

      A: “Nope, chest compressions are dangerous and cause people to break bones. Plus almost 100% of people who were not laying on their backs ended up dying after their heart stops. So, laying someone on their back is all you need to do.”

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      Yeah, it’s incredibly frustrating when propaganda uses partially true information to push their agenda. From a first aid perspective, letting the wound bleed a bit and get oxygen exposure can reduce the initial infection. You should absolutely get the vaccine though because why fucking risk it?

      edit: here is more than you ever need to know about tetanus: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/tetanus.html

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      Ah right, and that’s why people think it’s related to rust. Because most people getting a puncture would probably got it by standing on a nail, which was out in the elements and thus rusty…

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    They must be thinking that our body is like a municipal water system. The water is usually kept at high pressure so that if there’s a leak or rupture, the water will gush out violently enough to prevent anything from contaminating the system for everyone else.

    The key thing they’re missing though is gushing violently. The body generally doesn’t bleed vigorously enough to prevent foreign agents from getting in – and most of the time when it does, you’re having severe blood loss.

    The only exception I think is around the anus. If you’ve had hemorrhoids you’ve seen just how much they can bleed, and I think that’s to generally keep things out since it’s an unclean area. Still, if you sat down with a bleeding ass in contaminated water, you’re still going to get infected.

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    You know

    You try and try to educate people but… idk maybe they should be allowed to conduct experiments if they’re willing to sign off on no medical treatment. Seems like a fair challenge to those who know so much.

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        As is often pointed out, in order for this plan to work they need to die before procreating. Unfortunately the crowd that doesn’t take education seriously doesn’t take birth control very seriously either, or at least not in they way they should.

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      Problem is their, “experiment,” is resulting in the return of previously eradicated diseases.

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        Tetanus is very far from eradicated. The bacteria causing it are pretty much everywhere. People don’t succumb to tetanus anymore because they are immunized and the shot is highly effective. That’s why it’s so important to get the vaccine. If you actually contract tetanus, your chance of survival without severe, permanent handicap is slim, even with the best healthcare available.