• ober9000@lemmy.world
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    Upvoting posts is fine, but Karma I can do without. Back on Reddit sometimes I help somebody with something and I get maybe 3 or 4 Karma. Make a stupid joke in a popular Thread and get that hundred fold. Karma is useless.

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      I wouldn’t mind some sort of rating scale at least, but nothing infinitely growing like reddit karma.

      I found the karma useful to see if someone had a relatively well used account, was a karma farming bot, a shit poster, a lurker, or an asshole.

      Maybe just a scale to determine an accounts total relative ratio of upvotes to down votes?

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    If we keep it without karma, bagdes and other reward crap then the only reward is the information of the post itself, the plus that ir brings to the people involved. As a forum should be.

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      Man so far i am loving lemmy and the fediverse. Clunky? Yes. But i love this real sense of community that was lost at reddit. Losing RIF was truly a blessing in disguise. I hope more people will move here but even if they don’t, I am ok. I am sick and tired of my data being something that goes to feed the pockets of some corporation. Fuck it.

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      I noticed that I don’t have a karma or upvote counter for my account, and I felt free. Let’s keep it that way. It just encourages more ego and skin in the discussion ahead of focusing on the content and further penalizes users who sometimes have an unpopular, but still civil and constructive, opinion. I don’t want an echo chamber effect.

      I imagine that implementing such a metric could become quite confusing if it turned out that not all instances permitted all communities in the future. If this is already the case, please excuse me. I’ve been on Lemmy for one hour total. Solving that consistency problem couldn’t be easier than just not solving it.

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        Hate to break it to ya but that’s just your UI from whatever app you’re using; you definitely have a “karma” score / upvote score, currently at 47 comment upvotes total.

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        As a recent refugee, if there was a carbon copy of reddit owned by some sort of non profit organization or funded by public money I would most definitely use that. Provided of course the monetization crap and ads were removed and I can have my Apollo app back.

        Nothing wrong with this new federated direction we are taking now, but what made reddit shitty is corporate greed and an infantile moron as decisionmaker, not that it was centralized.

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          If you want an Apollo style Lemmy app, I would wholeheartedly recommend wefwef. It looks just like Apollo but it uses Lemmy instead of Reddit.

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            I already installed it yesterday, good suggestion. It looks and feels 99% like Apollo, only that it’s a bit sluggish here and there (though that’s probably just a matter of time until optimized). For anyone missing their Apollo app this is the thing to get.

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    Good. Karma just incentivizes the monetization of accounts. Without karma there is less incentive for bots and grifters since visibility/prominence/influence can no longer be bought and sold.

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    To anyone suggesting karma is a good anti bot tool, remember there is karma whoring. Nothing is stopping a bot from spamming useless things, and interacting with other bot posts to build karma. This is already happening on reddit when you navigate to weird subs where all the content is coming from one account posting links to the same shitty tabloid site. Yet this content is getting upvotes from something.

    Karma is security theater, I think the mods were the true anti-bot force.

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      not to play devil’s advocate here, but for the average interwebs John Q. Public user isn’t a karma “fence” that has to at least be climbed, better than nothing at all? but yeah of course its a false sense of security.

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    I never understood this obsession with internet points to the point where people are willing to farm them. I guess on Reddit there was a monetary incentive, with people selling accounts with certain amounts of karma. Honestly to me it’s always been more like “cool, I got 48 upvotes on this post” or whatever, and move on with my day.

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      100% agree! It’s so nice right now to not see dumb posts when users trying to karma farm. I have been loving Lemmy so far. I just hope we get more users so we can get more engagement from the smaller communities.

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    Why?

    Posts should have the ability to be promoted or buried, to help highlight interesting stuff.

    But why people? I don’t get it. Isn’t this place more like a forum than a social network?

    Leave that crap for Facebook etc…

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    If any devs ever implement karma into Lemmy, I will shut down my subs and leave.

    I mean that with 100% seriousness. Karma is one of the most evil concepts ever conceived in the history of the internet. It brings out the darkness in a motherfucker.

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      Excuse me if I’m just dense, but when I look at peoples profiles in wefwef, it shows me their comment score and post score.

      Is that somehow different from what Karma was?

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        That’s probably a good reason not to use Wefwef 🤦

        Here, your comments can be upvoted and downvoted, but it’s purposefully not totaled and kept separate from your profile. I don’t know why the devs of that app decided to total them all together – that total is your karma and people did tie their self-worth and their social standing to their karma. It’s what made Reddit so toxic

        We all better go say something to the Wefwef devs and make them take that shit off

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          OK so I’m not crazy, this is basically just karma then, yeah? Just like “client side calculated” (I’m assuming at least, if Lemmy doesn’t have native support for a concept like karma) karma lol

          https://ibb.co/ssqBZyq

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              Wefwef dev here, it’s not calculated client side. post and comment score is in the api response of every user.

              I actually had no idea the Lemmy web client doesn’t display this when I implemented in wefwef

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                Can we have a talk about that? Please for the love of all that is holy, don’t actually display karma scores in wefwef. Please. :(

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    It would be interesting to have a poll on how many people really would want reddit-style karma on lemmy. I suspect it wouldn’t be that high

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        I always found it cool to see my karma increase over the years from mostly commenting. I think I ended up with over 100k comment karma, but frankly I couldn’t give a shit about it here

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          The thing is Karma was largely about luck and community. I made a dirty joke that took 5 seconds to think of and wasn’t very funny and got 2000 upvotes because it was in a big thread. I later spent about 5 hours putting together a resource for a smaller community and got 200 upvotes. Almost zero correlation between karma and quality.