The man who pleaded guilty to setting a Planned Parenthood location on fire in Peoria, Ill., was sentenced to 10 years in prison Tuesday. Tyler Massengill pleaded guilty to burning the office in Fe…

The man who pleaded guilty to setting a Planned Parenthood location on fire in Peoria, Ill., was sentenced to 10 years in prison Tuesday. Tyler Massengill pleaded guilty to burning the office in Fe…

      • Pisodeuorrior@kbin.social
        12·
        11 months ago

        …are you seriously comparing someone who fought against slavery to someone who burned a place where women receive health care?

        Fucking hell, enough internet for today.

          • lowdownfool@kbin.social
            9·
            11 months ago

            We get to use violence against those who “commodify human life”? Cool, let’s take out people forcing women to be baby-making machines.

            • MonsterHighStan@kbin.social
              5·
              11 months ago

              Yeah I’m really not sure how you get “abortion = commodification of human life”. If we’re going there, it’s the women forced to carry dead babies and schoolgirls giving birth in toilets who are being commodified.

            • 52fighters@kbin.social
              1·
              11 months ago

              I agree. That’s why our society should take a much, much harder stance against rapists. The folks commodifying human life are the people who have turned abortion into an industry. But beyond that, a person who willfully engages in acts that are capable of producing new human life but with the plan to murder that life (painfully, if necessary) for the sake of lifestyle or convenience, are objectively immoral. These are the vast majority of abortions. No medical necessity. No rape. Lifestyle decisions after consenting to sex and either not using contraceptives or having a contraceptive failure. And these folks are the bread and butter for the abortion industry. Almost none of these clinics would be financially viable without this market segment.

              • lowdownfool@kbin.social
                6·
                11 months ago

                And these folks are the bread and butter for the abortion industry

                Lie. Back that up with something. There is no abortion industry. There is a right-wing propaganda industry, though. Sounds like you’re a customer.

                not using contraceptives or having a contraceptive failure

                The contraceptives that religous extremists try to limit or ban. You think we don’t see this shit?

                • 52fighters@kbin.social
                  1·
                  11 months ago

                  Just do an overlay of the number of planned parenthood clinics and the abortion rate over time. They mirror very closely. Why? Because they are the opening pipeline to the abortion industry. But we also know they have a secondary market for dead babies [link].

                  The rest of your commend is just throwing mud to detract from the issue. The issue is lifestyle abortions. Instead of dealing with the fact that these are the vast majority of abortions and there is no moral reasons these abortions should exist, you try to detract to arguments about contraceptives that are not going anywhere because nobody is taking away anyone’s access to condoms, the pill, or other popular non-abortive contraceptives. Did you want to deal with the fact that most of these abortions are without a question immoral lifestyle abortions?

          • MonsterHighStan@kbin.social
            6·
            11 months ago

            1. Making abortion illegal (or burning down centers where they happen) doesn’t stop abortions. It just makes it significantly more dangerous for women with BOTH wanted and unwanted pregnancies.

            2. Planned Parenthood provides a significant number of other services in addition to abortion that are geared towards sexual health and women’s health. Some of this care wouldn’t be accessible to the patients without a PP.

            3. Burning down a Planned Parenthood doesn’t stop abortions. See point 1