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The US has vetoed a Palestinian request to the United Nations security council for full UN membership, blocking the world body’s recognition of a Palestinian state.
The vote in the 15-member security council was 12 in favor, the US opposed and two abstentions, the UK and Switzerland.
US officials had been hoping Washington could avoid use of its veto if other states objected to a draft resolution before the council recommending the “State of Palestine be admitted to membership of the United Nations”.
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Classic bs move.
“No you can’t become a country through the UN. Talk to Israel.”
Meanwhile, Israel: “haaaaaaahahahahahaha”
Meanwhile, Israel go Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
“We completely believe in the two-state solution and a state for the Palestinian people. We believe the best and the most sustainable way to do that is through direct negotiations between the parties,” the White House national security spokesperson, John Kirby, told reporters on board Air Force One on Thursday.
I like how the US is holding this up so they can desperately try to convince Bibi of something he’s already refused to accept, after having spent 6 MONTHS failing to get them to stop killing children.
I wonder if they would say the same thing to Ukraine.
Half of them would.
We should invade Israel, set up a demilitarized zone between Gaza like North Korea.
Not only would it help Palestinian civilians, it’s pretty much an auto election W for Biden. Get the left to appreciate actively stopping genocide and the right would have to begrudgingly accept Biden is big and powerful when Trump didn’t have the balls.
Also get to see F-22s dogfight F-35s, win-win
This is such a sensible idea we can almost guarantee that it will not happen. Not even invade, just send a “security force” to prevent violence in both directions. Then he could even frame it as “protecting Israel” as well as protecting Gaza.
Of course the problem is that Israel has already fucked up Gaza beyond recognition and rebuilding will take time and money
I hate this fucking timeline.
This is why the UN is flawed and practically useless. The permanent members can just fuck everyone else around.
On the contrary, this is the UN working as intended. Veto power is supposed to represent (at least originally) nuclear weapons capability. The idea is that we’d rather they just argue than bomb with nukes each other. There’s a ton of fuckery and appalling stuff around the UN. But overall, it has stopped far more violence than it has allowed to exist. It sucks as all hell for individuals and ethnic groups who suffer while the diplomats bicker. But the planet has not frozed on a nuclear winter yet, so thus far it has fulfilled it’s mission.
Huh, never knew that. This new information really paints the UN in a different light for me now.
Are there any primary sources you’d recommend for following up on this information?
Site of the UN
That justifies the existence of the UN, not the veto power for permanent members.
Also your justification follows the “tiger repelent rock” pattern: we don’t really know if the “no nuclear winter yet” is due to the UN or not, much less due to the whole veto power thing - two conditions existing at the same time doesn’t mean they have a causal relationship.
MAD is just as good or better explanation for that specific outcome and the process by which it would work it’s a lot simpler, so it’s the logical one to choose per Occan’s Razor.
Yet now they are working hard on bringing that winter on.
But for how long. People are losing trust in it and do not see it as an institution worth respecting. Its probably gonna end up like the League of Nations.
Did anyone else see someone dressed in a witches outfit in the center rather than a camera with a cloth cover?
Looks like The Silent from Slay the Spire.
Makes sense to me. Nations are defined by their monopoly on violence, and Palestine definitely doesn’t have that.
States are defined by there monopoly on violence, or at least there claim to it. Nations are a group of people with some common identity. Palestine, like the kurds and the Jews before Israel are a nation without a state.
Is that the angel of death addessing the UN?
Why does working at the UN look like such a miserable job?
All the responsibility and none of the power
All the
responsibilityblood on your hands, and none of the powerFTFY.
Is the UN head chair a prestigious office inside the diplomatic corps? Obviously there’s cushy postings that are preferred over say, Syria - but is it a prized posting?
No one should have Veto power in the UN
Without veto power, the superpowers would have never agreed to the UN in the first place. Those who have power have never once given it up willingly, they just package it in different boxes.
It’s weird that Palestine didn’t automatically become a UN member due to the two state solution by the UN.
We all knew they would. Still a massive let down thought.
