The article is dated back in February. I’m not seeing it pick up steam. I’m seeing it being forgotten.
Regardless, we should really use the correct phrasing here. We’re pushing for a 32 hour workweek standard. Calling it 4 day is stupid because everyone just says four 10hr days.
I always see this, a 4 day week being equated to 4 - 10 and it always leaves me baffled that people think we have to work 40 hours. No we fucking don’t. 40 hour work week was implemented when automation was but a fraction of what it is today. Heck one can even argue that we can half the working hours to 20 and still be fine.
Yep, agreed 100%. 32hr workweek should just be a first step or transition to 24, then even less. Automation, AI, and everything should benefit all of us not just the billionaires.
I guess the argument is that you could even have it without changing the amount of hours.
And it’s foxnews :/
I guess 4/32 would be most accurate, but I think a lot of these pushes for four day weeks are not for 10 hour days but 32 hours with fulltime pay
some are calling for 6 hour days whether on 4 or 5 day weeks which is another topic for discussion in perhaps anotger post or here as well
For a 32 hour work week to be viable we would need the pay to match a 40 hour work week at least. I doubt we will get both if one even
I agree with you 100% on both
I already work 4 10s. Factory work is what it is. Sometimes we get forced for Fridays too. Hell, overtime is the only way to make any real money. I don’t have a point, just sharing my experience.
Work From Home was a big cultural change for the country, and we all see how that went (even after initially lauding it). I’m not holding my breath on this. Anything that reduces stress on the employees would never get commonplace, because stress is how they keep the workers in check.
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Every single company now wants everybody to come back to office, even those who worked remote before Covid. Even zoom, whose very business is keeping people at home is making their employees return to office.
Dunno about every single company, but I’m sure the handful that want it are really happy this is the impression you’re getting
You think only a handful of companies went back on WFH?
You think every single company wants it?
I don’t have a direct line with every single company in the world, but I do have this thing called a figure of speech. RTO is a pretty big trend right now, you only need to search the news and find out about it. Not sure why you’re trying to prove that there is at least one company in the world that doesn’t want people to return to office.
Because it’s a handful (woa, figure of speech!) dominating the news because they have an agenda. There’s still plenty of WFH options out there, and there is also news about companies forcing RTO to bleed top talent.
Not sure why you’re riding so hard for RTO.
Not true at all.
I’m doing a real four day workweek since the beginning of this year and I’m never going back. And by “real” I mean 4x8 hours.
There are so many companies out there trying to push 4x10 as a benefit. Dude…that’s just the same amount of work in one day less. I want to get more work life balance, not burn myself out faster than before.
A lot of old farts telling people like me we are too lazy and need to work harder. Their rage is my fuel. Since the economy is fucked anyway and working late into the night only benefits my employer, I might as well just take a little salary loss and do the things I like instead.
Since productivity is similar over 5x8 and 4x8 surely 4x10 just means more hours of mouse wiggling right?
I don’t even work for someone and I fully support this. 5 day work week is an artifact of a different time.
Life isn’t about working.
Americans live to work, Europeans work to live.
As an American living in Europe it’s been really interesting observing the cultural differences there
Definitely. I’m pretty sure the vast majority of Americans would love to have the social services available in most of Europe (vacation time, parental leave, universal healthcare, universal college-level education, etc.). They just have no idea it’s even an option.
My favorite is always American boomers complaining about universal healthcare being “socialist”…while being on Medicare. I give up.
why did you post an article from a propaganda site
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I agree with you and it’s fucking depressing.
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Agreed. I want future generations to have it better even though I’m not having kids.
I’d love to see this change in our lifetime but I’m definitely not holding my breath.
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