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Or Voyeger or any other opensource Lemmy client.
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I just leave you with my favorite quote of Ljdawson, made during the reddit api war:
“I don’t know. I don’t track shit.”
He has crashlytics. That’s about it.
Tbh, I don’t care for open or closed source, I don’t even care for free or payed. (19 bucks per year… That’s like what, a coffee and a donut at a Starbuck?)
Stuff must just work and to be honest… All available clients all work sort of.
This one does this good but sucks at multi instances. That one screws up gifs from that and this site. Made an error typing your user name!/password during setup? Tough shit. You can’t edit it so redo from start, remove it and type well this time.
Sync just seems to work.
That’s not to shit on anyone hard work: I can’t do it, I can’t make them, I’m glad these clients exist. I don’t expect free tools to be perfect.
But I’m also superglad Sync for lemmy is a thing. And I will pay for it when it’s out of beta.
Sync not only works. It’s the smoothest App I have on my phone. The animations and transitions are just beautiful, well timed and do not stutter even a tiny bit. I wish all android apps were like Sync. I’ll gladly pay whatever he charges.
Sync just seems to work.
And that is why I’ve used it for all these years. There are no weird quirks, it just does exactly what I need it to do.
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I’m not sure what I’m looking at in your screenshot. Everything looks fine and normal to me.
I am also willing to give the app the benefit of the doubt because it is still in beta and has been available for less than 24 hours so far.
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I noticed that, this happens when I set comment sort to Top. Works fine when set to Hot. Still in beta, they’ll hopefully fix it.
Thanks, that makes it a little more clear. Seems like that might be something more than comments out of order, though. At least as far as I could tell the hierarchy of post times appears correct, it’s just not showing everything.
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Had that one as well. Makes reading posts with many comments almost impossible. Let’s hope it gets fixed soon.
I think they meant the old Sync. This one is in beta and bugs are still expected.
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This was fixed in the latest update.
Yeah I assumed the ad tracking was mostly Google’s own doing, or whatever ad provider that hes using for injected ads.
Sync just seems to work.
Didn’t I read the current version does not allow you to post? I feel its pretty weird to release an app in that state and still keep ads in it.
But if you are happy paying and using that, more power to you! Meanwhile I save that money and use one of the many open source clients that actually work.
I’m posting from it right now. The ads don’t seem to work through. I’m not blocking any but I’ve not seen one yet.
That sounds better then, thanks for clearing that up.
Sync is fantastic, and I’ve used it for years. But I’ll be sticking with Thunder. Its UI is close, and I’m able to contribute the things I want to change.
You do you, but for me personally, the only honest software in existence is software willing to disclose it’s source code.
Sync is fucking fantastic, just how I remember. I don’t mind at all paying for a great app by a talented dev.
The pro version is supposed to be out later, and will just be a one-time payment unlike ultra’s subscription
The lifetime purchase to remove ads is up. It’s a bit pricey but I can understand why, Lemmy has a smaller userbase. Totally worth it.
I wonder if it was because of the backlash from being subscription only? I was surprised by how many angry posts there were. I gotta admit even I was disappointed. I don’t mind paying for a pro version. But a subscriptions a bit of an ask, as I don’t need the features offered by it, but I do like sync and Lawrence is a good guy.
No ads for 20 bucks isn’t bad as an alternative if you don’t need the features
Yeah, he didnt have that option when I first installed it. Went ahead and grabbed that.
Are you talking about sync ultra or is there another ad free purchase? Ultra life time costs 120 usd, which is too much for me
There’s the remove ads option, which is not a subscription to anything. It’s $20.
They are talking about the remove ads option. It’s a one time purchase just to remove ads with none of the additional features of the subscription. As I understand it.
Yeah if you just click ‘remove ads’ on the sidebar it’s $20 for lifetime I believe
Same here. The latest update has the “remove ads” option added for a one time 12.99 fee.
15€ here.
Wtf why does mine say €21.99???
Same here in France 21.99€
€22.99 here 🙃
It feels so random.
About 20 EUR for me.
There are just as good apps that do not track for shit.
Plus not accounting for a previous purchase is a final nail in the coffin for me. Most likely impossible to implement, but still stings.
$34 dollarydoos here 🦘
Are you sure that’s not the lifetime for ultra? There’s a new one time “remove ads” option.
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Yes I’m sure. Ultra is only available annually or monthly. Annually it’s $28 here
Edit: I stand corrected. Just got the new update with ultra lifetime as an option. That’s $170 though.
Wow. I hope that’s some sort of mistake.
It’s $99 USD, think you all are seeing a bug.
Edit: I misunderstood which option was being discussed.
Wrong country?
Not seeing it, I just see an Ultra subscription, where is the one time no ad option?
Make sure you update the app. It just showed up for me about an hour ago.
I just found it, scroll to the top and click the Lemmy logo top left, under account switcher and above sync ultra
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20 bucks here
It’s available as an IAP for $19.99 now
Same, I’m paying for the ultra subscription. But I understand if someone is using another app, Connect is pretty good. I’m just an old dog
Its not about the money but about the software freedom and source transparency
I say this as someone who is probably one of the biggest supporters of software-freedom around here, but bullying or shaming people for preferring non-free apps does nothing but incite resentment towards the movement. I value the four freedoms because I think I deserve control of my computing, not because I think it’s my place to dictate what others should value.
I used Sync for almost the full 11 years on Reddit and will gladly support the dev on Lemmy.
Same. Sync was the only way I accessed Reddit since 2012.
You understand the feeling I have today using it. Feels so good.
I don’t understand the bitching about it, we users were asking for this, it is the good thing about Lemmy/Fediverse, you have tons of options, and probably will have more, heck even the PWA are awesome, no need to download anything at all.
People like to bitch
You have to accept to being tracked by Google, having an advertising id, all the data Firebase collects. Their ToS is large.
Users were asking for it, that’s true. I guess users don’t really care about being tracked, allowing google into their phone and indirectly supporting them controlling the web, thus enabling them to do things like manifest v3 or the web integrity API.
Ads? understandable, the dev has bills to pay. Not open source? Purists may hate it, but not the end of the world. Tracking? Google? No thanks, the beautiful design is not worth it.
Many of us were sync users who came over because of the api changes. Don’t care about tracking.
One time payment is there. Someone confirmed that there is no connection to Google after paying the one time payment.
I will admit I never knew any of this
Remind me of that meme where the person is complaining about the thing, gets the thing and then has the frowny face.
Sync is a perfectly fine app for me. I tried all other apps and nowhere near to sync. I don’t even have ads on the free version as I am using dns ad blocker. The moment one time payment for removing ads is out(it is coming), I will buy it. Or I will donate to dev in some other way as I am not a fan of subscriptions.
Yeah, this shit is getting old really quickly.
What client I use doesn’t affect your experience. I and lots of others are reddit refugees and I used sync for years. I’m ecstatic to have the interface back.
Bullshit gatekeeping and bickering over ideological purity doesn’t help anyone. At the end of the day, lemmy is confusing for someone accustomed to reddit. There is a learning curve. Most of us just want to exchange info and converse. I don’t give a fuck to learn about FOSS and all that other bullshit any more than any of you want to learn the specialized minutiae I have to sift through at my day job.
Shut the fuck up already. This sort of discourse lands like a bunch of shitty kids meeting at a half empty bar all criticizing how one another got there
I just installed Sync after browsing with Jerboa for the past month. Sync has such a clean, smooth look that if it functions even remotely consistently it’ll be my new replacement.
I’m soooo happy to be done with Jerboa… Haven’t uninstalled it yet but it’s such a buggy piece of crap compared to Sync so it’s only a matter of time til I do.
The backspace bug where it removed the previous spacing between words really bothered me.
Check out all the UI options. The customization is really awesome, even if it’s a little confusing at times. The search box in options helps.
I lasted half a day with Jerboa, it really didn’t work for me. Connect has kept me happy since though.
Just tried Sync. It’s like a better Connect.
I’m waiting for Infinity, but I’ll try sync in the mean time.
5-6 different open source and ad free options, with no trackers whatsoever, and some of y’all are fawning over…you know what? To each their own. At least y’all are here and not on reddit 😁
Edit: I was wrong, there’s around 20 options (including Sync) for Lemmy apps that are either already out or in development. Enjoy the buffet.
what’s the point of judging? Sync is the only app so far that has full, thoughtful support for foldable phones and the dev genuinely has been putting in a lot of work into it. I bought the No Ads IAP and I’m perfectly happy with it, but there are so many good options now for those that want something completely free.
Because the open source community has been full of a bunch of people who built whole personalities on shitting on anything not FOSS. And even though they now have an opportunity to bring a lot more people into the community than before they’d rather play these stupid arrogant superiority games instead of just letting people enjoy things how they want to enjoy them.
Right? No need for the smugposting
Smugposting would be me calling sync people “Lemmy J. Fry”
Cause FOSS people are worse than vegans. It’s like Linux users but infinitely worse.
FOSS ≠ better or good. Most of the FOSS Lemmy apps are usability nightmares right now. The only reason I was using jerboa for so long is because sync wasn’t out yet
FOSS apps often suffer from mediocre UX/UI since the expected audience are power users, but it alienates users that aren’t. They’re functional for those who need it, yes, but is the GUI high quality? More often than not, they aren’t.
I’m not saying FOSS can’t have bad UI, like Blender for example, but those are the exception, not the rule.
For me, Connect and Thunder are getting there, but they don’t have the same level of quality and finesse as Sync. Though to be fair, Sync has a decade of work put into it.
Bro you’re smugposting rn
I’m really just disappointed nobody found “Lemmy J Fry” funny. That had me cracking up before I went to sleep last night. Either way, I feel less… passionate about the subject after a good night’s sleep. Spend money, don’t spend money, doesn’t matter either way as long as you’re here. Now, the moment I hear about awards or ads on Lemmy instances, imma be back on my bullshit, and I hope some of you will join in 🙂
Hahaha with you 100% there
Pretty sure I said “to each their own”.
Saying something at the end of your rant doesn’t preclude anyone from responding to you.
It’s a rant now? You’re putting tens on twos. Gotta relax bud.
Your post? Your comment?
Congrats on being insufferable, bud.
Thanks, it took a lot of hard work and dedication. I’ll do us both a favor and block you, so that we can get on with our lives. This Convo has obviously gone on too long.
Please, stop, don’t.
- I’m just used to it, and no other client accommodates my workflow (liftoff is very close but has some annoying issues, quirks and differences),
- It’s quality software with great design and a lot of customization options.
I totally get the familiarity aspect, I think I just enjoy tinkering around and the feeling of learning how something new works. Either way, glad to have y’all here and not there 🙂
Teenagers are the worst
Agreed.
do you really have a hard time understanding how different people have different preferences and how familiarity works or do you just like being smug?
as for “trackers” and ads you will find that unless they are intrusive about 99% of the population doesn’t give a fuck, even on a fairly niche site like lemmy the majority won’t give a fuck.
I absolutely judge people who don’t care about online privacy
The only people who don’t care are entirely tech illiterate and make no effort to understand why its an issue.
And you’re absolutely right. I’m here to stand with you on that.
I love FOSS but I got pretty used to the official reddit app, and Sync is the only app that feels like if the reddit app wasn’t buggy and laggy. The paid aspect doesn’t bother me because I would have donated to whatever app I use anyway, at $5/mo the $20 one time ad removal option makes sense if I use it for more than 4 months so it’s worth it to me.
Imagine Apollo for Lemmy 😮💨
i’m using memmy (iOs) ! works very good, and it feels nostalgic since they tried their best to… be inspired by apollo 😄
I love Memmy for Lemmy!
They have added the blue jump button. It makes it hard to upvote comments at the bottom, but love that it is there.
You can hide it in settings—>appearance
You can hide the button, but my favourite way to upvote comments/posts is by swiping a bit to the right!
And if you deep-swipe to the right it will downvote.
My gf installed that one yesterday, but I think it does not have an option to mark as read posts while you scroll, hide read posts?
I couldn’t even see if the read posts were dimmed.
It does in TestFlight. In fact, it has several options for marking read and works great.
Wait, so the App store version is just a dumbed one version?
No, it’s just behind the dev builds. Lots of new features have been delivered lately and will be pushed to the App Store soon.
Good to know, thanks.
All “hide read posts” options are here!
In Settings -> Content -> Hide Read Posts .
edit: to clarify, i have the 0.5 version. i’ll update to 0.5.1 now.
That’s Voyager.
That’s Voyager.
Great… Now I get to look forward to a trip back from the delta quadrant.
Which is also coming for Android!
💪
i’d love a native version since brave keeps resetting voyager every 2 or 3 days
Just keep waiting mate!
Yeah no, Apollo was native, Vogager isn’t
Native already incoming and PWA works awesome.
except it’s not, because Voyager is React and comes with all the baggage that using React brings.
Native clients all the way.
Works great as PWA, and Voyager is already coming native.
Hopefully the dev changes his mind about not creating an app for lemmy
Have you heard of wefwef? It’s basically Apollo for Lemmy.
Link to a Reddit post about it, quickest I could find in short order at work:
https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14lr2n4/wefwef_is_an_apollo_like_web_app_for_lemmy/
It’s called Voyager now.
Thanks, I didn’t realize that. My icon still says wefwef.
For the PWA you’ll have to remove and re-add it to get the updated name and icon, if you want them. Not required by any means though
Thanks that worked!, I feel like I preferred the old icon though :/ I’ll get used to the new one I guess.
Is it? I got it before it was on App Store, so it still says wefwef. Should I go get Voyager because one day updates won’t transfer over? Or am I good, and super duper cool cus I got OG Voyager?
Seriously good by any measure, and fantastic for a webapp. Smoother and more native-feeling than a lot of actual native apps.
Yes and big fan as well even hosted it on my instance
good job on having india’s first general instance (ig?)
Yeah, it’s called Voyager, and it doesn’t even have the Pixel Pals or pop-ups that ruined Apollo!
Fun fact, me and Clarkson are both from Donny:
I used sync for reddit for years, I had no ads in the free version and the pro version. I’ve tried a half dozen apps for Lemmy since my Reddexit. Sync for Lemmy is far and away the best. I really missed its design. I was happy to toss $20 to you for no ads on Sync for Lemmy. Thanks for all the hard work.
I drove through it once, looked rough as shit.
Nice, I have family in Nottinghamshire.
Also, is your .ml or .world your main instance? The .world seems to have the biggest audience
.world is
Y’all gotta stop shitting on non-FOSS Lemmy apps.
Lemmy is Lemmy, let people access the platform how they want to. It doesn’t affect you. Don’t use Sync if you don’t want to.
How about instead we respect everyone’s decisions and preferences? Free as in freedom, is that not what the Open Source community is about?
That’s how I’ve always read this meme format. It literally says the non-preferred option is still brilliant.
Sure, but when people are excited about something, they’re going to trash-talk. It’s healthy to have the freedom of debate these choices.
Anyone can choose to install whatever software they choose on their device, but the “free” in free software specifically refers to the freedom to read and modify the source code.
Under the philosophy of the FOSS movement, all proprietary software are by definition unethical.
Since Lemmy and the larger fediverse is the choice for many free software advocates, it’s natural that you see this kind of backlash when fundamentally unethical software to interact with it is released.
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Does this meme make you feel disrespected? Why?
Right, but sync isn’t even free in that regard. It serves you ads, tracks you, and is closed source. I’d happily financially contribute to it if it were actually FOSS
Why can’t I just use the service that has a design I like?
I wouldn’t have used reddit if it wasn’t for sync and that same logic applies to lemmy. Adoption is critical for lemmy to succeed so please tone it down a bit, unless having the same 2 dozen people in your community was your personal appealing feature of lemmy.
I have always preferred Infinity when I was using Reddit. But right now Infinity for Lemmy seems to be not in a usable state. I have been using Thunder For Lemmy as of recently, not sure if I will switch from it to Infinity for Lemmy once its in a more usable state.
Edit: I can’t even use Sync for Lemmy as on the Play Store it says its unavailable on my device. I have a Samsung Galaxy s23 Ultra. One would think that it would be available considering its pretty much this years flagship of the largest Android brand.
Edit 2: It seems to not be because of the device itself @IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world seems to have been able to download it on their s23 Ultra.
Edit 3: It was because of Age Verification. I can now download it fine.
